2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

The Garrett SEMA L61 Turbo kit

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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 11:50 PM
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good find, this may be worth getting
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 11:54 PM
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I am a personal testimony to RP!!!! I put in some synthetic oil 7,600 miles ago, and it still looks better than my Mobil 1 did when I changed it. It still looks almost new. I can get you a pic
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Halfcent
Ah, I get it now. I've actually had a lot of conversations with people about that same topic and everyone has a different opinion. The STS kit puts the MAF in the same place as the Hahn kit:

Bill Hahn said he has tried both, and had better results with this setup. Does anybody know where SRT-4's, Evo's, or STI's put theirs?

It seems to make sense. It's the closest location to the TB, hence the actual amount of air entering the engine.

STIs and Subies are in the intake pipe pre-turbo.
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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Anyone have any shots of the oiling, both feed and return. I heard Hahn's kit uses a fitting on the sending unit and a fitting on drain back so we don't have to drill and tap the block or pan?

Any pics anyone?
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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you have no idea what you are talking about...yes if you keep the kit the way it is it SHOULD be safe on your stock internals. But lets say you want to boost 1 more psi uHHH OOO its not safe anymore...everyone is going to push the limits of the kit. boost higher run richer push the limits. the ONLY SAFE way to run turbos is the build the engine for it. I tell you what when i build my motor and put the turbo on and you keep yours stock and put it on we will see whos engine runs longer...im putting my money on my motor. oh PS you put your turbo on stock motor CONGRATS!!!! you now have a constant 14 second car maybe 13 if you know how to drive. Sorry im shooting for lower. For the record I race tracks not dynos.
And you have no idea how to read my thread. You say I have no idea what I'm talking about, and then you go right on to support exactly what I said. And as far as having a constant 14 second or 13 second car, that's perfectly fine with me cus thats way better then what it is now, and whoever said I want my cobalt to be a track monster...please point it out in any of my threads ever on this site. And congrats on being the first person I've argued with also. For the record I drive my car places on streets and stuff of that nature.

EDIT: Disagree with me maybe, but don't tell me I have no idea what I'm talking about thanks. (slap smiley face)

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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 04:34 PM
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Any word on weather you can use a strut tower brace with this kit yet??? with the pipe going over the valve cover it seems to be an obstruction?
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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Okay, so I'm home and was able to screen-shot the PDF file. Here it is!

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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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thats awesome.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Halfcent
Okay, so I'm home and was able to screen-shot the PDF file. Here it is!
Is this the setup you plan on going with? I would like to see real world results as I have a friend with a 2.2 that might be interested in this, as it looks like to be a mostly bolt on.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 01:45 PM
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They use Nelson Performance, who I've been trying to talk to on the phone for some time now.
theyre only in SA, next time i go through there i will stop by and give em a yell. i should be going through san antonio around christmas time unless you get ahold of them by then.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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Because that transmission is used on 500+ HP race cars like the Phase 5 and Drag cars. You are confusing a street car using this kit at 200 HP with a race car making crazy high horsepower numbers.
well i spose you should know im lookin to see if it would still be safe at closer to 250whp, not just 200bhp
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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Well I called my Garrett wholesaler today. I hooked him up with the part numbers. He is going to do some research for me to see if we can get any pricing and or time frame to when the kits are going to be available. I will let you guys know what I find out in the next day or so.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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the garrett turbo kit is awesome, the disco potato turbo produces a awesome tourque curve for a turbo!
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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I plan to use Hahn. I have consulted with him through my build, and he is local, so I'll have easy support access.

The 4T45E automatic is rated for torque, not HP. There is MUCH confusion about what it really can take. The GM stats say 205 ft/lbs engine torque, 325 gearbox. With a fluid cooler and temp gauge to monitor the trans, you should easily be able to handle 250 HP, which would be somewhere between 250-300 ft/lbs. The clutch packs will slip however under the stock TCM program. You would need to increase your shift pressures, which is possible with HP Tuners.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 11:28 PM
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haha thats funny there using a nissan turbo on a cobalt lol
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 11:29 PM
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yeah and the hahn kit is using a mitsubishi turbo so its all good
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by GTP
STIs and Subies are in the intake pipe pre-turbo.

thats called a blow-through setup. it helps in preventing stalling on decel when venting a BOV atmospherically.

on a sidenote:

i don't like how the power drops off at the top end on the 2.2 motor with a gt2860rs. perhaps they should have gone with a larger t3 flange. torque number are impressive. but i don't think any of you are going to be able to put down 200+ tq numbers on a open differential.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SentraGuy
thats called a blow-through setup. it helps in preventing stalling on decel when venting a BOV atmospherically.

on a sidenote:

i don't like how the power drops off at the top end on the 2.2 motor with a gt2860rs. perhaps they should have gone with a larger t3 flange. torque number are impressive. but i don't think any of you are going to be able to put down 200+ tq numbers on a open differential.

what gtp is describing is a draw thru. If the maf is after the turbo and the BOV then its a blow thru
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by djt81185
what gtp is describing is a draw thru. If the maf is after the turbo and the BOV then its a blow thru

correct. got mixed up with reading too much. good catch.
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 04:44 AM
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i cant wait to just see one kit come out. my buddys and i are planning on doing a custom turbo setup for my cobalt when tuning comes out.
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Halfcent
I plan to use Hahn. I have consulted with him through my build, and he is local, so I'll have easy support access.

The 4T45E automatic is rated for torque, not HP. There is MUCH confusion about what it really can take. The GM stats say 205 ft/lbs engine torque, 325 gearbox. With a fluid cooler and temp gauge to monitor the trans, you should easily be able to handle 250 HP, which would be somewhere between 250-300 ft/lbs. The clutch packs will slip however under the stock TCM program. You would need to increase your shift pressures, which is possible with HP Tuners.
gratzi my friend

now i just thought of something potentially super gay for me....will the turbo still fit on my car since im one of the few with air injection?
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 06:17 AM
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gratzi my friend

now i just thought of something potentially super gay for me....will the turbo still fit on my car since im one of the few with air injection?
That question was already answered...
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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i was just wondering as most of this thread is about auto trannys how do you guys think the stick will react to this kit ?? it may already have been answered but my small brain cant remember after 7 pages of reading
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Halfcent
I plan to use Hahn. I have consulted with him through my build, and he is local, so I'll have easy support access.

The 4T45E automatic is rated for torque, not HP. There is MUCH confusion about what it really can take. The GM stats say 205 ft/lbs engine torque, 325 gearbox. With a fluid cooler and temp gauge to monitor the trans, you should easily be able to handle 250 HP, which would be somewhere between 250-300 ft/lbs. The clutch packs will slip however under the stock TCM program. You would need to increase your shift pressures, which is possible with HP Tuners.
You should also be able to use the B&M Shiftplus, I will know for sure on thursday
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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