2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 09:54 PM
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Good or Bad Idea?

I am wanting to turn my 2.2L into a huge project, park it for a while and just dump money into it...I want to make a very nice and unique looking sleeper, so i was thinking about going and finding a wrecked monte carlo or something taking out the 3.8L supercharged motor and all the computers, etc and swapping it...then building up that motor, making my axles and tranny stronger...that would be first, i know a guy that can do this he already told me how it would work out... then working on my suspension, appearance inside, music etc, etc.
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:03 PM
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If you want a sleeper get an older lighter car to swap in a more powerful engine. Like a Geo Metro with an Eclipse turbo drivetrain. (From an old Sport Compact Car mag.)
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:04 PM
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Try It, You Wont!
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:07 PM
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I like the idea of a 2.2 sleeper. there is always a light grumble from the 2.0 guys saying they should switch bumpers witha 2.2 and make a nasty sleeper of it. but none of them would ever do it. if you could do it, it would be sick, having a monte engine in a cobalt

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Try It, You Wont!
hahahah... rangerondubz has his new line... lol

me and my friends used to do this while drunk... its amazing how much you can convince someone to do with some alcohol and the words "you wont do it!!"

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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:11 PM
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Hell if you can get it to work do your thing.... just make sure you do all the necessary research to make sure its even possible... and then if its feasible... if u get the bigger engine in but it adds too much weight it may take away from what you are tryin to accomplish... but if you have the cheese go for it
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:13 PM
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Get a Geo Storm for $1500, then get a Lotus Elan 1.6 turbo intercooled motor and swap it in. It has the same engine mounts and everything bolts right in.
You can also use the Isuzu Impulse 1.6 turbo intercooled motor which is the same as the Lotus Elan.
You will have a car that everyone will think is slow and Steve Lockett's Geo Storm can do 1/4s under 10 seconds. His is not just the motor swap, he has done everything to this motor to make it that fast.
In the end, it is a $1500 car with a $2000 motor, and many hours of your time.
Turbo Storm example:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/521374/7
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:16 PM
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i was told it could be done, you guys give me your input on whether or not you think it would work... also where do you guys think i could come by one of these?
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:23 PM
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Nope. Far more going on in such a thing then you realize. And if you do understand everything involved, you wouldn't bother with a 3.8L
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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i want to do the 3.8L but if its that difficult then i just want to make it into a project and just do a bunch of upgrades...
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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Why dont you just turbo the 2.2l thats in it already
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:34 PM
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i want to do something unique...
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:34 PM
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i want to do something unique...
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:36 PM
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you mean performace looks or all the way around you wanna be unique
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:45 PM
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yea u never know if u turbo the 2.2 u may be able to outrun a ss/sc
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:57 PM
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i want to be all the way around unique...performance, exterior looks, interior looks... everything unique...
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 11:01 PM
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No offense

but nothing you do will be unique...well fully unique. Engine swaps aren't anything new, Turboing isn't anything new and neither is supercharging.

Great thing about forced induction is that large displacement isn't necessary.

Like Halfcent said, if you did understand what was involved, you wouldn't do it...or wouldn't want to do it.

No matter what you do, you'll gain more respect and self pride in a completed project than a half ass attempted project.
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 11:02 PM
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Well i guess you gotta spend the time and money to do a 3.8L swap with a turbo cause right now there are not many options yet
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 11:12 PM
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okay so how much gain do you guys think i will get from doing a full engine build with probably 9.5:1 pistons etc internals, Garrett Turbo, full 3" exhaust, injen CAI? ill figure out something unique through this process...
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 11:17 PM
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You want unique? Ok try this... convert to RWD and dump in a twin turboed and intercooled Lingerfelter 7.0 litre aluminum small block chevy. Keep the exterior completely stock looking and run no bigger then 8 inch wide rear tires. NO one and I do mean NO one would expect an 8 second rwd street driven Cobalt!
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackalope
You want unique? Ok try this... convert to RWD and dump in a twin turboed and intercooled Lingerfelter 7.0 litre aluminum small block chevy. Keep the exterior completely stock looking and run no bigger then 8 inch wide rear tires. NO one and I do mean NO one would expect an 8 second rwd street driven Cobalt!
Now thats Unique for your whips
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 11:22 PM
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if your gonna do a crazy swap like that why the 3.8? id do a 2jz swap if anything, same amount of work more power and a better motor, but its gonna be alot of work and money to do any swap in the cobalt,
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by NP05Cobalt
okay so how much gain do you guys think i will get from doing a full engine build with probably 9.5:1 pistons etc internals, Garrett Turbo, full 3" exhaust, injen CAI? ill figure out something unique through this process...
If you go turbo CAI will not fit. Stick with bolt-ons until you have a better understanding of what you are doing.
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by NP05Cobalt
okay so how much gain do you guys think i will get from doing a full engine build with probably 9.5:1 pistons etc internals, Garrett Turbo, full 3" exhaust, injen CAI? ill figure out something unique through this process...
That's a impossible question to answer.

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if your gonna do a crazy swap like that why the 3.8? id do a 2jz swap if anything, same amount of work more power and a better motor, but its gonna be alot of work and money to do any swap in the cobalt,
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and show me what transmission he can bolt up to it for FWD.

The 3.8L that he can get are from FWD vehicles, not RWD.

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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Black07LS
If you go turbo CAI will not fit. Stick with bolt-ons until you have a better understanding of what you are doing.
ha...i just reread what i posted and didn't realize that i listed the CAI... well i see all of you are pretty much suggesting to just leave it alone like it is...so ill just build up the internals and probably throw a turbo on it and an exhaust for performance... then ill just work on body and interior... thanks all
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 09:22 AM
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Okay, here is what you do.

First, are you a manual or automatic?
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