JBP Vortex Catback Exhaust (not the header)
02-16-2008, 11:54 PM
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JBP Vortex Catback Exhaust (not the header)
I have been looking and listening to exhaust systems for the balt for a few days now, started with the most popular (vibrant, hahn) but I didn't like how they rasp when in WOT. I like a more subtle muffled sound. When I heard the jbody exhaust I fell in love, it sounds sooooooo nice and low and gets louder when rev'd but never has the obnoxiously loud sound many of the aftermarket exhausts have.
I was just wondering if anybody has the JBP exhaust and could post a driveby soundclip or vid, or give any comments on it. I was also wondering if anybody knows any other exhaust sysems that have that same low, clean, muffled sound to them.
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I was just wondering if anybody has the JBP exhaust and could post a driveby soundclip or vid, or give any comments on it. I was also wondering if anybody knows any other exhaust sysems that have that same low, clean, muffled sound to them.
TIA!
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02-16-2008, 11:58 PM
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I can't really help you with either, as I've never heard them... but I'll warn you now, there will be a lot of people in here in a few minutes bashing JBP over that damn header.
For some reason people seem to think it still doesn't fit right...
For some reason people seem to think it still doesn't fit right...
02-17-2008, 12:03 AM
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I have been looking and listening to exhaust systems for the balt for a few days now, started with the most popular (vibrant, hahn) but I didn't like how they rasp when in WOT. I like a more subtle muffled sound. When I heard the jbody exhaust I fell in love, it sounds sooooooo nice and low and gets louder when rev'd but never has the obnoxiously loud sound many of the aftermarket exhausts have.
I was just wondering if anybody has the JBP exhaust and could post a driveby soundclip or vid, or give any comments on it. I was also wondering if anybody knows any other exhaust sysems that have that same low, clean, muffled sound to them.
TIA!
I was just wondering if anybody has the JBP exhaust and could post a driveby soundclip or vid, or give any comments on it. I was also wondering if anybody knows any other exhaust sysems that have that same low, clean, muffled sound to them.
TIA!
02-17-2008, 12:07 AM
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Well there's the "vortex" header, then the "vortex" cabtack exhaust. If you want to hook the exhaust up to the header you have to buy their header which comes with the downpipe and cat; but I don't. I just want the catback. =)
02-17-2008, 12:14 AM
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Money isn't an issue. The quality looks very good and I haven't found anything with that sound yet, and its exactly what I'm looking for. So yeah, I'm just wondering if anybody else knows any other systems that have that kind of a sound, or if anybody has experience with that exhaust system.
02-17-2008, 12:22 AM
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Maybe check out the ZZP exhaust.... it's a quiet 3" and it's cheaper...
http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt_...ts1.php?id=804
There is a video at the bottom of the page.
http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt_...ts1.php?id=804
There is a video at the bottom of the page.
02-17-2008, 12:42 AM
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Yeah that ZZP sounds ok, not quite perfect, but for half the price is definitely something to consider. Do you know if it will bolt up to the factory cat? Their description says it will hook up to their downpipe, but I don't want to mess with that until I get my turbo kit in, so for now I just want a catback.
02-17-2008, 12:46 AM
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i have the corsa touring, and got pulled over for noise. i was WOAT at the time , mind you.
http://www.corsaperf.com/autohome.htm
my neighbor is a stang guy, and also has a lightning, and he said mine is the first 4 banger exhaust that didnt annoy him, nice low tone.
http://www.corsaperf.com/autohome.htm
my neighbor is a stang guy, and also has a lightning, and he said mine is the first 4 banger exhaust that didnt annoy him, nice low tone.
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Yeah that ZZP sounds ok, not quite perfect, but for half the price is definitely something to consider. Do you know if it will bolt up to the factory cat? Their description says it will hook up to their downpipe, but I don't want to mess with that until I get my turbo kit in, so for now I just want a catback.
Kyla is really nice to deal with.
02-17-2008, 12:55 AM
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[QUOTE=firestorm;1967440]i have the corsa touring, and got pulled over for noise. i was WOAT at the time , mind you.[QUOTE]
Well that worries me a little. I like the low sound, but I still want it pretty subdued under WOT. Think of a BMW M5 idle and under WOT, it sounds wonderful. Low and rumbly, but under WOT it is still moderate. You know its got some power under the hood, but it doesn't demand everybody's attention.
Well that worries me a little. I like the low sound, but I still want it pretty subdued under WOT. Think of a BMW M5 idle and under WOT, it sounds wonderful. Low and rumbly, but under WOT it is still moderate. You know its got some power under the hood, but it doesn't demand everybody's attention.
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i have the corsa touring, and got pulled over for noise. i was WOAT at the time , mind you.
http://www.corsaperf.com/autohome.htm
my neighbor is a stang guy, and also has a lightning, and he said mine is the first 4 banger exhaust that didnt annoy him, nice low tone.
http://www.corsaperf.com/autohome.htm
my neighbor is a stang guy, and also has a lightning, and he said mine is the first 4 banger exhaust that didnt annoy him, nice low tone.
[QUOTE=James Rayth;1967466][QUOTE=firestorm;1967440]i have the corsa touring, and got pulled over for noise. i was WOAT at the time , mind you.
Well that worries me a little. I like the low sound, but I still want it pretty subdued under WOT. Think of a BMW M5 idle and under WOT, it sounds wonderful. Low and rumbly, but under WOT it is still moderate. You know its got some power under the hood, but it doesn't demand everybody's attention.
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A grand for a catback, are you outta' your damn mind! Get some custom bent pipe, a 3" resonator, and a magnaflow muffler since that is all that JBP "VORTEX" crap is!
I have a 2.5" custom Magnaflow setup cost me $275.00 ZZP Downpipe $150.00 Custom Ported manifold FREE from a buddy! So I spent less than $500 and got an entire header back exhaust!
I have a 2.5" custom Magnaflow setup cost me $275.00 ZZP Downpipe $150.00 Custom Ported manifold FREE from a buddy! So I spent less than $500 and got an entire header back exhaust!
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A grand for a catback, are you outta' your damn mind! Get some custom bent pipe, a 3" resonator, and a magnaflow muffler since that is all that JBP "VORTEX" crap is!
I have a 2.5" custom Magnaflow setup cost me $275.00 ZZP Downpipe $150.00 Custom Ported manifold FREE from a buddy! So I spent less than $500 and got an entire header back exhaust!
I have a 2.5" custom Magnaflow setup cost me $275.00 ZZP Downpipe $150.00 Custom Ported manifold FREE from a buddy! So I spent less than $500 and got an entire header back exhaust!
02-17-2008, 02:04 AM
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I'm not out of my mind, but I will pay more for something that is what I want. I have heard lots of feedback on JBP's system, which makes me kind of sad, but lets not linger on that.
So, I'm hearing a good resonator and muffler put on a 2.5 or 3" system, if done right, will give the lower more muffled sound?
As for a 4 banger sounding like rice, even though people love to get hung up on the word, I agree... with an exception. Just about all the exhausts I've heard sound too tinney and raspy under WOT, but look at the SRT4's stock exhaust. Those cars sounded very nice. They were still a TINY bit harsh under WOT, but I bet a resonator would have cleaned that right up.
So perhaps with that as an example, or by listening to the sound clips on JBP's site (whether that is how their product sounds or not), you guys may have a better idea what I'm after.
Anyway, love the advice so far, more is always appreciated too! =)
Sure did, by your original recommendation actually. 
I like their idle sound, but it gets so loud under WOT. I was thinking of maybe seeing if they'd throw in a res or different muffler to try and dampen the WOT sound. I like the low and rumbly, just not the loudness and raspyness.
So, I'm hearing a good resonator and muffler put on a 2.5 or 3" system, if done right, will give the lower more muffled sound?
As for a 4 banger sounding like rice, even though people love to get hung up on the word, I agree... with an exception. Just about all the exhausts I've heard sound too tinney and raspy under WOT, but look at the SRT4's stock exhaust. Those cars sounded very nice. They were still a TINY bit harsh under WOT, but I bet a resonator would have cleaned that right up.
So perhaps with that as an example, or by listening to the sound clips on JBP's site (whether that is how their product sounds or not), you guys may have a better idea what I'm after.
Anyway, love the advice so far, more is always appreciated too! =)
I like their idle sound, but it gets so loud under WOT. I was thinking of maybe seeing if they'd throw in a res or different muffler to try and dampen the WOT sound. I like the low and rumbly, just not the loudness and raspyness.
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I'm not out of my mind, but I will pay more for something that is what I want. I have heard lots of feedback on JBP's system, which makes me kind of sad, but lets not linger on that.
So, I'm hearing a good resonator and muffler put on a 2.5 or 3" system, if done right, will give the lower more muffled sound?
As for a 4 banger sounding like rice, even though people love to get hung up on the word, I agree... with an exception. Just about all the exhausts I've heard sound too tinney and raspy under WOT, but look at the SRT4's stock exhaust. Those cars sounded very nice. They were still a TINY bit harsh under WOT, but I bet a resonator would have cleaned that right up.
So perhaps with that as an example, or by listening to the sound clips on JBP's site (whether that is how their product sounds or not), you guys may have a better idea what I'm after.
Anyway, love the advice so far, more is always appreciated too! =)
Sure did, by your original recommendation actually.
I like their idle sound, but it gets so loud under WOT. I was thinking of maybe seeing if they'd throw in a res or different muffler to try and dampen the WOT sound. I like the low and rumbly, just not the loudness and raspyness.
So, I'm hearing a good resonator and muffler put on a 2.5 or 3" system, if done right, will give the lower more muffled sound?
As for a 4 banger sounding like rice, even though people love to get hung up on the word, I agree... with an exception. Just about all the exhausts I've heard sound too tinney and raspy under WOT, but look at the SRT4's stock exhaust. Those cars sounded very nice. They were still a TINY bit harsh under WOT, but I bet a resonator would have cleaned that right up.
So perhaps with that as an example, or by listening to the sound clips on JBP's site (whether that is how their product sounds or not), you guys may have a better idea what I'm after.
Anyway, love the advice so far, more is always appreciated too! =)
Sure did, by your original recommendation actually.
I like their idle sound, but it gets so loud under WOT. I was thinking of maybe seeing if they'd throw in a res or different muffler to try and dampen the WOT sound. I like the low and rumbly, just not the loudness and raspyness.
Just make sure you research what you want real carefully. And talk to a vendor lots before you give them any money.
Sure did, by your original recommendation actually.
I like their idle sound, but it gets so loud under WOT. I was thinking of maybe seeing if they'd throw in a res or different muffler to try and dampen the WOT sound. I like the low and rumbly, just not the loudness and raspyness.
I like their idle sound, but it gets so loud under WOT. I was thinking of maybe seeing if they'd throw in a res or different muffler to try and dampen the WOT sound. I like the low and rumbly, just not the loudness and raspyness.
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02-17-2008, 02:14 AM
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Oh I hadn't considered the dual mufflers having a variance on the sound. Well damn.
And I am definitely researching my ass off. =) That is what started this thread in the first place, I want to make sure I am getting something that I'll be satisfied with. I do like the sound of the ZZP exhaust, may end up going that route if nobody has any positive experiences with the JDP. Either that or I'll ask Bill if they could add a resonator/muffler to dampen the sound some. I've been very impressed with Hahn so far.
And I am definitely researching my ass off. =) That is what started this thread in the first place, I want to make sure I am getting something that I'll be satisfied with. I do like the sound of the ZZP exhaust, may end up going that route if nobody has any positive experiences with the JDP. Either that or I'll ask Bill if they could add a resonator/muffler to dampen the sound some. I've been very impressed with Hahn so far.
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Oh I hadn't considered the dual mufflers having a variance on the sound. Well damn.
And I am definitely researching my ass off. =) That is what started this thread in the first place, I want to make sure I am getting something that I'll be satisfied with. I do like the sound of the ZZP exhaust, may end up going that route if nobody has any positive experiences with the JDP. Either that or I'll ask Bill if they could add a resonator/muffler to dampen the sound some. I've been very impressed with Hahn so far.
And I am definitely researching my ass off. =) That is what started this thread in the first place, I want to make sure I am getting something that I'll be satisfied with. I do like the sound of the ZZP exhaust, may end up going that route if nobody has any positive experiences with the JDP. Either that or I'll ask Bill if they could add a resonator/muffler to dampen the sound some. I've been very impressed with Hahn so far.
What you want to work off with exhaust, is that the tone is determined by flow, and baffles.
The wider the diameter, the louder the tone. But going wider with a small displacement engine will only magnify the sound of the combustion, (which with our engines, is almost always going to be raspy, because of the low displacement.) The only thing you can really do to decrease the ricey sound of an exhaust if you want to stay with a really wide diameter, is increase the amount of baffles the air has to pass through on the way out. This is where the srt-4's have a nicer sound. Alternatively, you can try a dual out muffler like what i pm'd you.