Jet Chip Or Trifecta Tune
Jet Chip Or Trifecta Tune
Some opinions would be nice maybe people who have em if they can say the pros and cons they cost about the same, and their both very easy to install.. so anybody care to persuade
just being friendly
just being friendly
I have the Jet Chip Stage 1 Module on my 2.4 and it wakes up the bottom end of my engine's performance. I've had it for about 5 months and have not had any problems. I also get PM'd by people that have it and they also say it helps their low end (they don't want to post and get trashed by the "Know-it-Nots").
If you can get a tune that would probably be the best, if not -- the Jet Chip module is a nice addition.
If you can get a tune that would probably be the best, if not -- the Jet Chip module is a nice addition.
I have the Jet Chip Stage 1 Module on my 2.4 and it wakes up the bottom end of my engine's performance. I've had it for about 5 months and have not had any problems. I also get PM'd by people that have it and they also say it helps their low end (they don't want to post and get trashed by the "Know-it-Nots").
If you can get a tune that would probably be the best, if not -- the Jet Chip module is a nice addition.
If you can get a tune that would probably be the best, if not -- the Jet Chip module is a nice addition.
what is a jetchip? I live in the caribbean and I bought a stage 2 kit, but there are no gm dealers here so I have no way of getting the tune for the stage 2... would a jetchip work for a stage 2 tune?? I also don't have access to hptuners...and even if I buy hptuners I have no clue on how to use it.
Last edited by bernandovelasquez; Sep 19, 2008 at 10:42 AM.
what is a jetchip? I live in the caribbean and I bought a stage 2 kit, but there are no gm dealers here so I have no way of getting the tune for the stage 2... would a jetchip work for a stage 2 tune?? I also don't have access to hptuners...and even if I buy hptuners I have no clue on how to use it.
Like I'd trust just anybody to tune my Cobalt....
The Jet Chip Module might be what people refer to as a "Canned" tune" but it works, isn't outrageously expensive, and I can take it out (try that with a "tune").
People with HPTuners aren't around every corner -- and I looked into buying HPTuners -- it is not cheap for what I want.
Red, did you ever get a dyno done? I thought i remember reading back in the spring when you were buying the Jet module, but never kept up with this place after that period.
No I haven't dynoed -- and I don't plan on it because of my automatic tranny. I dynoed a 2.2 auto couple of years ago to try and prove the 2.4 manifold worked on the 2.2 and found that I couldn't get a clean "enough" graph to prove any small increases (or decreases) because of the upshifts and downshifts -- can't control the auto tranny.
No I haven't dynoed -- and I don't plan on it because of my automatic tranny. I dynoed a 2.2 auto couple of years ago to try and prove the 2.4 manifold worked on the 2.2 and found that I couldn't get a clean "enough" graph to prove any small increases (or decreases) because of the upshifts and downshifts -- can't control the auto tranny.
Theres actually only one wire you need to disconnect(CKT1039/PINK) but disconnecting the whole connector is much easier.
You can also try pulling the "ECM/TRANS" fuse under the hood, this will work too, but may put you into limp mode because it will cause turn off the TCM as opposed to just taking power from the shift solenoids.
Sorry for the TMI. All you need to do is disconnect the large round/oval connector from the trans. you squeeze the sides to release it. there should be a white arrow on top(not always)
Dont get butthurt.
he asked if anyone had logged it.
I have. and thats my opinion.
I long ago stopped giving a **** about "proving" things like this to this forum
so believe me, or dont. I couldnt give a ****.
but hell. wtf would I know anyway. mid 13s AFR could be just fine.
he asked if anyone had logged it.
I have. and thats my opinion.
I long ago stopped giving a **** about "proving" things like this to this forum
so believe me, or dont. I couldnt give a ****.
but hell. wtf would I know anyway. mid 13s AFR could be just fine.
Someone asked if anyone had logged data from a Jet Chip module, because he would "love to see some AFR's" Youre the one getting your butt hurt and resortin to the "I dont need to prove anything to anyone" stance. Why bother letting us know that youve logged info on the Jet module if youre unwilling/unable to share it?
Dont get butthurt.
he asked if anyone had logged it.
I have. and thats my opinion.
I long ago stopped giving a **** about "proving" things like this to this forum
so believe me, or dont. I couldnt give a ****.
but hell. wtf would I know anyway. mid 13s AFR could be just fine.
he asked if anyone had logged it.
I have. and thats my opinion.
I long ago stopped giving a **** about "proving" things like this to this forum
so believe me, or dont. I couldnt give a ****.
but hell. wtf would I know anyway. mid 13s AFR could be just fine.
And there is the possibility that the one reading you "saw" was defective. The 2.2 modules have been a hit-or-miss in the threads.
Most of the Jet "chips" simply modify/alter stock sensor readings going to the computer in order to get the computer to react differently and alter the fueling and/or timing. For example on a lot of the speed-density cars that rely on a MAP sensor to calculate airflow the Jet chip will function similarly to a fixed MAP clamp or alter other sensors like changing the intake temps. About the only thing nice is they are a plug-and-play device even though many times you could simulate the same functionality they provide by wiring in a couple dollars discrete component (resistor/potentiometer, Zener diode, etc.).
That's not to say it's dangerous or won't work or won't provide some types of gains, but they are expensive for what you get and there is a potential the car could be running too lean, for example, if you use the chip with other modifications (but that goes for any tuning device that wasn't custom set up for your car). Without some extensive testing it's hard to say what exactly the Cobalt/Ecotec version is doing and I'd want to see some verified independent gains which they never provide. I'd personally stay away from them if you have another tuning option (since the Jet chip really isn't a tuning product).
That's not to say it's dangerous or won't work or won't provide some types of gains, but they are expensive for what you get and there is a potential the car could be running too lean, for example, if you use the chip with other modifications (but that goes for any tuning device that wasn't custom set up for your car). Without some extensive testing it's hard to say what exactly the Cobalt/Ecotec version is doing and I'd want to see some verified independent gains which they never provide. I'd personally stay away from them if you have another tuning option (since the Jet chip really isn't a tuning product).


