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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 02:16 PM
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Just got my new intake! But...

I went ahead, I couldnt wait anymore...I got myself a GMPP short ram air intake system. I get a sweet deal through my job (Penske) and it knocked the price down to 303 after taxes. But the thing is im not sure if I like it that much. It sounds ok, but it now sounds like the engine is boging and it seems to take more time to get up to speed. Especially in the low end. Am I just loosing it? Or have forgoten to do something? Any help would be very much welcomed.

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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 02:20 PM
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dunno bud...i put an injen on my 2.2 and everything works better
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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An SRI should actually be more responsive in the low end than a CAI. You might want to check and make sure you didn't get anything on the MAF during the install.
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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An SRI should actually be more responsive in the low end than a CAI. You might want to check and make sure you didn't get anything on the MAF during the install.
I second that, and I would clear all codes (even if you don't have any) so that all the sensors are set back to the initial configuration so that they will begin to learn the new air flow parameters from scratch. made a big difference when I put all the GMPP parts on my 06 LS -- I thought my performance was worse too until I did this.
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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also i hear the filter sucks, i have the same intake, but i just replaced with an aem dryflow and it works better
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 03:18 PM
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did you accidently leave something in the piping or the filter??? maybe something got suck up in there or something
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by cobalt2.2slow
I went ahead, I couldnt wait anymore...I got myself a GMPP short ram air intake system. I get a sweet deal through my job (Penske) and it knocked the price down to 303 after taxes. But the thing is im not sure if I like it that much. It sounds ok, but it now sounds like the engine is boging and it seems to take more time to get up to speed. Especially in the low end. Am I just loosing it? Or have forgoten to do something? Any help would be very much welcomed.

Thanks
You got screwed, I paid $247 + tax + $2 for shipping. I think it was like $20 to ship it by itself. Anyway, if shipped seperatly, that still less than $285. And if you don't believe me heres the link.

Cobalt Performance Air Intake Kit 17800653

You might want to look around for something you want next time and maybe you can get it cheeper.

As for the bogging, is the MAF sensor installed backwards?
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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You say it "sounds" like it is bogging, but does it "feel" like it is bogging?? Yes, with a CAI set-up the long intake tract will cause some delayed throttle response but gives gains on top-end. With a SRI, such as the GMPP intake, the intial throttle response should be more noticeable, with a little less gain on top end. If you can't feel it bogging then it's probably just the sound when you open the throttle wide and it gulps in a large amount of air. It's really deep and may just be what you hear vs what you feel.
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 04:51 PM
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rip off, i got my aem cai for around 250
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 04:56 PM
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rip off, i got my aem cai for around 250
Thats GMPP for you. Less for more.
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by CobaltCoupeCrazy
You say it "sounds" like it is bogging, but does it "feel" like it is bogging?? Yes, with a CAI set-up the long intake tract will cause some delayed throttle response but gives gains on top-end. With a SRI, such as the GMPP intake, the intial throttle response should be more noticeable, with a little less gain on top end. If you can't feel it bogging then it's probably just the sound when you open the throttle wide and it gulps in a large amount of air. It's really deep and may just be what you hear vs what you feel.
I love that sound =)
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 05:08 PM
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You check for air leaks?
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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My pricing was in CAD btw and its retail price here is 398. I will check for air leaks, I will make sure the sensor is clean, and I know that there is nothing blocking the pathways. I really have nothing to compare to when it comes to speed/acceleration, it just feels and sounds like it takes more time to get to the higher rpms. It may just be the deeper sound which is throwing me off.

Ive also read around that disconecting you batt will reset your ecu parameters? Clearing dtc's wouldnt do anything either, seeing as they are for diag purposes only. Active or not. (there isnt any running codes that I know of atm) But if it worked for you...i'll give it a try.
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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ya the increase in noise make you feel like your going faster than you really are.
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by cobalt2.2slow
My pricing was in CAD btw and its retail price here is 398. I will check for air leaks, I will make sure the sensor is clean, and I know that there is nothing blocking the pathways. I really have nothing to compare to when it comes to speed/acceleration, it just feels and sounds like it takes more time to get to the higher rpms. It may just be the deeper sound which is throwing me off.

Ive also read around that disconecting you batt will reset your ecu parameters? Clearing dtc's wouldnt do anything either, seeing as they are for diag purposes only. Active or not. (there isnt any running codes that I know of atm) But if it worked for you...i'll give it a try.

When you clear DTCs you also zeroize the sensor data (delete learned data) and the ECM starts learning all over again. It's in the GM service manual. For example if you replace either H02S sensor the factory service manual states to do this so the ECM "learns" the new sensor. If you don't your ECM will learn the new parameters but it will take longer since it has "learned" the old parameters.

I was disappointed at first with all the GMPP performance parts on my 06 LS and my 07 SS/NA -- seemed to have "killed" my bottom end -- but after erasing DTCs (didn't have any either) I could spin the wheels with ease off-the-line.
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 06:54 PM
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When you clear DTCs you also zeroize the sensor data (delete learned data) and the ECM starts learning all over again. It's in the GM service manual. For example if you replace either H02S sensor the factory service manual states to do this so the ECM "learns" the new sensor. If you don't your ECM will learn the new parameters but it will take longer since it has "learned" the old parameters.

I was disappointed at first with all the GMPP performance parts on my 06 LS and my 07 SS/NA -- seemed to have "killed" my bottom end -- but after erasing DTCs (didn't have any either) I could spin the wheels with ease off-the-line.
OMG... if this is tru im ging to kill someone...i didnt kno this, and i kno allot about cars... So i could really have allot more power than i currently am seeing? im doing this tmrw.
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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yup, once you reset the ecu you'll be fine.
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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OMG... if this is tru im ging to kill someone...i didnt kno this, and i kno allot about cars... So i could really have allot more power than i currently am seeing? im doing this tmrw.
This is one example out of the 2007 Cobalt service manual (refers to resistance learned value):

https://www.cobaltss.net/gallery/fil...al_warning.jpg

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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by cobalt2.2slow
My pricing was in CAD btw and its retail price here is 398. I will check for air leaks, I will make sure the sensor is clean, and I know that there is nothing blocking the pathways. I really have nothing to compare to when it comes to speed/acceleration, it just feels and sounds like it takes more time to get to the higher rpms. It may just be the deeper sound which is throwing me off.

Ive also read around that disconecting you batt will reset your ecu parameters? Clearing dtc's wouldnt do anything either, seeing as they are for diag purposes only. Active or not. (there isnt any running codes that I know of atm) But if it worked for you...i'll give it a try.
Its good that you dint pay retail. Those that do are Idoits, or have money to burn.
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 02:41 PM
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Its good that you dint pay retail. Those that do are Idoits, or have money to burn.
I payed $248 taxes in for my k/n typhoon intake for my g5 gt.
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 02:46 PM
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I paid 45 shipped for my Ebay Cold Air Intake
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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same 45 shipped works perfect sounds loud/awsome
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 10:02 AM
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Well thanks alot fella's all of this really helps out. After work today I will be clearing dtc's and I will post my fidings afterwards. Thanks
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 10:09 AM
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well i cleared my car... idk, maybe i feel a difference... not really.
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by HackAbuse
I paid 45 shipped for my Ebay Cold Air Intake
Yup, you all got screwed.

Ebay intake FTW!
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