2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old May 31, 2009 | 10:58 PM
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you need a tune to run the cams. simple as that. wish people would research more into before throwing stuff into there motor
only :need: a tune for stage 2, stage one can be run without it
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Old May 31, 2009 | 11:00 PM
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go back to school, learn to type.
not my fault speak french. but I thing you dont speak french even write it.
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Old May 31, 2009 | 11:01 PM
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not my fault speak french. but I thing you dont speak french even write it.
nope, I dont, dont need to either
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Old May 31, 2009 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by NWAE Cobalt
nope, I dont, dont need to either
men you never thougt to go at Paris and speak with french girl with a huge accent easy shot
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Old May 31, 2009 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by huckernage
men you never thougt to go at Paris and speak with french girl with a huge accent easy shot
Who needs paris, I have a gf w/ her own cobalt
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Old May 31, 2009 | 11:10 PM
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OP keep us updated stg 1 cams are on my list and this is really useful to me.

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men you never thougt to go at Paris and speak with french girl with a huge accent easy shot
Does it work the other way? like an American guy in another country, like foreign girls here. BTW I met a french girl my family knows( her mother was an exchange student years ago and we stayed in touch) that was the first time I understood why chicks go crazy over foreign accents lol So hot.

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Who needs paris, I have a gf w/ her own cobalt
I want one too.

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Old May 31, 2009 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by snake890217
Does it work the other way? like an American guy in another country, like foreign girls here. BTW I met a french girl my family knows( her mother was an exchange student years ago and we stayed in touch) that was the first time I understood why chicks go crazy over foreign accents lol So hot.



I want one too.
I met her on here
its awesome
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Old May 31, 2009 | 11:12 PM
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actually you need a tune for stage 1 also.
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Old May 31, 2009 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MP Cobalt
actually you need a tune for stage 1 also.
okay, IDK how trifecta works but would they update my tune for me or would I be basically buying a new tune? I was planning to get a tune in the near future but cams were in the waiting list. Would it be best to just do it all at once?
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Old May 31, 2009 | 11:16 PM
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If you get a tune now and put cams in your car later u'll probably have to pay for a new tune. I forget, but I know when my old 2.2 was cammed a tune was deff needed, and jason copson20 had stage 1 cams and a tune was needed for him as well
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Old May 31, 2009 | 11:20 PM
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cool thanks!
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Old May 31, 2009 | 11:28 PM
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viva trifecta and voila tuned
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Old May 31, 2009 | 11:32 PM
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I've got a brand new set of stg I cams for sale if somebody wants them. Pm me if interested
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Old May 31, 2009 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MP Cobalt
actually you need a tune for stage 1 also.
I have personally driven a cobalt with stage 1 cams that was untuned. He did have a CEL but the car ran great!
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by NWAE Cobalt
go back to school, learn to type.
it may be the same motor, but in a different car that is a totally different weight and has the weight positioned differently therefor different weight transfer its not comparable.
its almost like comparing the ariel atom to an ss/sc...it doenst work that way

good times none the less...just not the same
...you're comparing an ION to a cobalt...correct?
they're almost identical cars.... have near identical weights (ion's like 50lbs lighter)...identical engine positions, identical engines, identical transmissions, identical platforms.... you can definitely say its a fair comparison to compare an ion to a cobalt.
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
...you're comparing an ION to a cobalt...correct?
they're almost identical cars.... have near identical weights (ion's like 50lbs lighter)...identical engine positions, identical engines, identical transmissions, identical platforms.... you can definitely say its a fair comparison to compare an ion to a cobalt.
from what i understand ( if its who i think it is) his car only weighed about 2100lb when raced...that is NO WHERE NEAR THE SAME as my car is at about 3k when tracked....
that changes EVERYTHIGN about the car
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by NWAE Cobalt
from what i understand ( if its who i think it is) his car only weighed about 2100lb when raced...that is NO WHERE NEAR THE SAME as my car is at about 3k when tracked....
that changes EVERYTHIGN about the car
hows that possible?
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 06_ion2
hows that possible?
how is what possible? the 2100lb??
dont know, i just know that someone was talking about this time in an ion right after i ran my time and this matches up...and if he did run the car that light then it isnt even close to being comparable
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by NWAE Cobalt
how is what possible? the 2100lb??
dont know, i just know that someone was talking about this time in an ion right after i ran my time and this matches up...and if he did run the car that light then it isnt even close to being comparable
i honestly dont see how you could lose that much weight lol unless its a gutted dash.
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 03:07 AM
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i honestly dont see how you could lose that much weight lol unless its a gutted dash.
could be, i dunno lol
i just know that on street tires,without a vid of the run, it either did not happen running N/A (boost or n2o) or he was light as hell when it happened...or he was on drag radials...
it did not happen at full weight, with no other power adders, on street tires lol
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Originally Posted by NWAE Cobalt
from what i understand ( if its who i think it is) his car only weighed about 2100lb when raced...that is NO WHERE NEAR THE SAME as my car is at about 3k when tracked....
that changes EVERYTHIGN about the car
i dont even know of any cavaliers that light.. hell the time attack balt which underwent HEAVY weight reduction still weighed 2350lbs. regardless, i didnt know you were referring to a stripped down ion, opposed to a stock interior one
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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Well up here at 6000 feet above sea level i'll be lucky to see 14's boosted lol.

I hit up speed mafia and hopefully I'll get my **** tuned soon. Up next is the garrett turbo kit
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 03:22 PM
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my car with half a tank of gas and me in it weighed i think like 2700...with full interior and spare in and other garbage
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Preston
my car with half a tank of gas and me in it weighed i think like 2700...with full interior and spare in and other garbage
then the scale was off. these cars are not 2500lb cars...lol
the lightest ones are 2800 or so, but that would be a zero option LS with manual trans. No extra weight in heated seats, power window motors, door lock solenoids, sunroof equipment, smaller/lighter wiring harness throughout the car, lighter oil pan (less oil), no trunk mats or floor mats, etc. a fully loaded ss/sc or ss/tc is probably around 2950lbs

you can only really strip 150lbs before you start removing the interior
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Originally Posted by NWAE Cobalt
could be, i dunno lol
i just know that on street tires,without a vid of the run, it either did not happen running N/A (boost or n2o) or he was light as hell when it happened...or he was on drag radials...
it did not happen at full weight, with no other power adders, on street tires lol
drag radial, I have video at 15.01 first day this year and no tuning on that day

that true nobody will do 14s with full interior and street tires.

but ¼miles is ¼ miles
if you like that as much as I do, you will do anything you can to break your own time.
I dont care that I m racing against a 13S car but if that run I break 14s for first time
it so a nice feeling to pass under 15s with a tupperware on 4 wheel

14,8 with a 127whp on a mustang dyno
14,9 with a 180whp on a dyno jet
interresting
what do you thing about that.

i declare war against you lol
at the end of september the one who win will revceive a virtuel beer from the slower lololol

that the better win
virtuel shaking hands lol



Originally Posted by Preston
my car with half a tank of gas and me in it weighed i think like 2700...with full interior and spare in and other garbage
I m going there with a 1/8 of a tank but I bring with me a 2 gallon of gas in case

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