Always talk about an LS in no means of being fast. Over the months I have concluded that with research from everybody a fully bolted and tunes LS/LT can bring you to about 165-175ish in whp (cams 175-180). The SS/SC has base 205 hp so isnt there als a drivetrain loss to bring it around 180ish? That would make the power similar to both and resulting close race?? correct me if iam wrong...BTW..Happy Easter,Passover...Be Safe

 

naaa..... SS/SC have been found to be 205+ at the wheels

 

Most SS/SC dyno 215+ Stock, just a stage kit can bring it up to 240+whp with nothing else. The answer is no.

 

i have never seen an lsj dyno lower than 200 on ant dyno. they are way underrated from the factory

 

O i didnt understand why Ls/Lt lose power to the wheel but the SS pertains to the stock amount with little to no drop. Okay so nevermind but thanks for the input

 

ss/sc is rated for WHP, and is rated slightly lower than true.

ls/lt/ssNA is rated for crank horses i think.

 

Yep, the SS is way underrated for insurance purposes I think. A stock ss would murder most fully built NA 2.2's. And, any SS that's into racing is going to have stage 2 anyways, which would slaughter it even worse.

 

how bout the 2.4L Sport vs a SS/SC ?? lol, i think the SC would still win, would be a better fight than a 2.2L me thinks

 

Still wouldn't cut it.

 

keep in mind that all these "dyno" numbers CAN be innacurate. i went to a dyno day where they utilize mustang dynos and there was a guy with a TVS powered ss/sc that had a hard time breaking 290whp with stage 2 a tune and some rice tow hooks. lol.

if you took that same car to a dynojet he would be pushing like 320 "whp"

make sure you know that some people on here claim so much whp but don't clarify what type of dyno they ran on.

 

There have been 2.4's that beat SC, but few and far in between.

 

i beat a stage 2 LS SC
hahaha

 

when you beat the ls/sc stage 2 what mods did you have preston...also were you on the bottle ?

 

just going off his sig...im gonna say he had a turbo...
simply put, unless your into the "i put $8,000 into my engine" category, a NA cobalt will not beat a blown cobalt

 

well for 8k motor work you could eat LSJ's.. thats my plan

 

I dream of having a built NA like the one you stated. But reality is why not go FI and save some of your wallet. Stubborn as Iam, I will remain NA p

 

i own a 2.2 and i know its slow and i am totally fine with that
hahaahah

 

n/a is a waste of time/money i think f/i is where its allllllll at.. sorry its true

 

Narrow f/i to turbo and thats where its at. A turbo for a 2.2 is a mod that you will never need to replace as you can just add boost. Why replace internals before the break. Just push 225hp untill they give. Or if you really have the money forged internals and 12-15 lbs of boost.

 

why only 12-15lbs on forged? when you can do 16-20 easy if its done rite.

 

Fully bolted and tuned 2.4L here. I beat my buddy's stock SS/SC the other day.

So still impossible?

We both know how to drive btw...

 

2.2sc will hand it to a stg2 ss/sc

 

Why do 16-20, when you can make the same power on 12-15 if it's done right.

 

more psi does not mean more power btw, pending how much CFM your blower/turbo can push, 15psi on one turbo could =400+whp, while on another is could =220whp...stop talking psi and start talking CFM

 

your friend clearly doesnt know how to drive. im not bagging on your car, but he's probably near 215whp, and i guarantee your not even near 190whp... If he has a 25whp jump on you, and you beat him, it means he cant drive...

mine too...lol
but we are going for $8k blown motors, not $8k NA motors, which is what it would take to beat a blown cobalt