For how long? Around 10 seconds? I bet you still run a 15.00 1/4..... Lets not forget that us SS owners can spend that same 500 bucks and still blow you away.

 

So how often do you race more than 15 seconds?

 

I bet SS's beat it stock with the 75 shot jets installed! The 2.2 is I bet making at best around 130hp at the wheel. That's maybe 205 at wheel and that doesn't include proper tuning and management, so it will most likely be lower. Not to mention different trannies. I would study into whether the stock tranny and clutch can handle it! If not, you could be headed for heart break unless you don't care. Plus, mine is under warranty. Good luck having maintenance done!

 

I'm not trying to start an argument but I believe the 2.2L with a 75 will at least keep up with an SS. with a 5 speed tranny anyways...

 

If you truly want to go fast without compromising your internals, buy a fast car. Period.

For the amount of money many people put into their cars, you could easily buy a used c5 and smoke alot more than just ricers...stock...without risking any damage. (A stock SS/SC is about the same price my cousin paid for his used c5 - excellent condition and very quick)

To put it bluntly, corvettes, porsches, etc are built specifically for one (main) purpose - to go fast - consistently, bottom line.

Don't get me wrong, I love my cobalt, but it's not a fast car. It's a daily driver. The mods people talk about are great little improvements, (exhaust work, various intakes, etc) but ultimately it will never compare to a purpose built car like a corvette, and when these mods start to cost more than such a car, I start to wonder why people keep pouring money in. (Unless of course it's a classic car being rebuilt.)

At the end of the day, with the right mods and a shitload of cash, anyone can make a civic or cobalt very fast, but after spending that kind of money, you gotta ask yourself why?

/rant.

 

i agree with jaded, i do think though its fun to upgrade the suspension of a car, because it makes the driving more fun. oh and rims/tires too, all i care about a car is it's 0-60 and it's handling.

non ss cobalts feel peppy, but like stated above, knowing their 0-60 isnt so impressive... eh, yea daily driver = mods = money down drain. ah well, heh, keep on doing that nitrous thing, dont forget to post a vid.

 

I just think that entry level nitrous systems are a total waste. That money could of been put towards a turbo or supercharger kit...

How many Corvette's and Porsche's do you see with 4 cylinders? How many people buy a Civic and put enough money into it to buy a C5 or Porsche? People buy low end cars and make them faster because there's a cheaper upfront cost. Sure if I had $100,000 in my pocket to buy a car, I sure wouldn't spend it on a Cobalt SS. But I had $25,000 so I got one. Therefore, your rant doesn't even hold its own water.

 

Actually it does and your post just further proved it. Great job. If you read my first post, you see I used the example of a "used c5". You mentioned you spent 25,000 USD (@ 1.20 CAD = 30,000). For that EXACT amount of money, you could easily buy a 99-00 corvette c5 (extended warranty included) and as i'm sure you can probably appreciate, will smoke both yours and my cobalt alike (very easily at that). My central argument was (and i'll draw you a diagram if you'd like) is that when price levels begin to equalize, why would you take the 4 banger? better gas mileage? Sure, but if your purpose is to go fast, you definitely will have accomplished that in a similarily priced vette. On the other hand, if your purpose is to have a FUN, peppy daily driver, by all means, a cobalt is the way to go (that was my reason for buying it). Also, I'm not sure where you came up with the $100,000 figure. For $120,000 CAD I'd be buying a used 348 ferrari spider or even a 2006 z06 - both of which are irrelevant to this discussion.

As for the civic, you're absoultely right, most people wouldn't spend ($25,000 USD) doing up such a car because you could put that money to much better use in a real performace car. In regards to your point on "cheaper upfront costs" those cars (much like a cobalt) are great tuner cars and as someone has already mentioned in this thread - fun to drive, but ultimately (here's another main point) they're not fast cars. Definitely fun, but not fast - again it depends on your purpose and why you bought the car in the first place.

 

Where on earth can you find a C5 for $25,000 USD? In what kind of shape? How many miles? Please tell me because I am just itching to drop another $25,000 if you can locate one.

 

It's called gas mileage. C5 equels maybe 17mpg city! I get 27mpg city. Not mention insurance. Plus some people, like myself, do not like Vettes. I have never found them visaully pleasing. Yes, this is a silly comparo. You can't look at the cars in the same light! Stick to comparing the Vette to Porches and other cars with simaliar drivetrains. The Vette and Cobalt have nothing in common other then being made by GM!

 

tons of vetts click here



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Yes those are regular vettes, we're talking about the C5 / Z06...

The reason why I bought my Cobalt SS is because it had less then 100 miles on it. I wanted a brand new car as a daily driver and that's what I bought.

 

Actually no, I was talking about the regular C5...NOT the z06, as you can see there are a ton of c5's for very reasonable prices...all depends on what kind of car you want.

 

Yeah, i guess you're right, who would ever want to drive something like this:



Or this: (if we're still on the topic of c5s)



I guess to each their own..

 

why? because you have the freedom to do so.

anybody with the funds can pick up an expensive car and go fast. it takes lots of blood, sweat, and tears to build a mediocre car into a respectable one. you gain knowledge, learn through trial and error and find out the limits of your vehicle. the ecotec motor is softened down from the factory but its definitely got potential.

you get no respect from going out and dropping cash on a high end car, throwing a couple bolt ons on it and thinking you're hot ****. you get respect from building a car from scratch, gaining knowledge and working hard on your car.

you don't need engineers to build a car for you, if you want to go fast build your own car. if you wanna throw tons of money into your car, do it...its your hobby you have that right to.

So why build up a Cobalt/ION? Because you can.

 

I've been doing some research and it seems that C5's are automatics... I'm not interested in anything that shifts for me. But you are right, you can also pick up a Z06 for $26,000 - $30,000. I might get one of those instead of the Evo I've been looking at.

 

Correct me if I am wrong, but dont the EVO's have to be re-tuned something like every 7500 miles? I heard that from somewhere, I dont remember where though.

I would actually wait though until you can get ahold of an 05 vette or higher. Those LS2 engines are a force to be reconned with.

400 HP stock, AND gets 29 MPG on the highway. In my book you dont get much better than that. You would have to wait though, till probably 2007 before you can find a used one that is reasonably priced.

 

damn definatly well said. and like it was mentioned before, to each there own. And like its probably been said before around here. No matter how fast or how much money you have in to making your car fast. Someone is always going to be faster.

 

Whoa Holy Stock intake Batman!

 

just cause a car cost the same price and is faster doesnt mean you should get that car.

I also dont find vetts that appealing

Besides some people want a BRAND NEW car not a USED car.

I like the way COBALTS look so i got one and regardless if its fast or not ill make it faster with my upgrades. WHY? Cause i want to, its a hobby it something i can be proud of, its something i can put my leasure money into.

As for the NOS , well i think thats tite that you did something different.

keep up the good work

 

LOL you need to do some more research then. Thats like saying that every Cobalt ever made is an auto. You can get a C5 in a M6 just as easy as a A4.

Also C5's (M6 anyways) get damn good mileage. 24-26 city and about 30-33 hwy.