2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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New Intake

I am looking for a new intake for my 2.2 so that when I pick up a garrett alpha kit i can turn up the boost . I found this one and was wondering if anyone had anymore info on it - whats it made out of? what TB fits? It seems like a good price, I just need more info first!!

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http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...P1817C137.aspx
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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The turbo kit will come with its own intake tubing and filter. If you spend the money on an intake now, you will just be throwing your money away.


Edit: You meant intake manifold! :slaps forehead: This should be just fine for the turbo kit; the 2.2 TB will bolt right up with the adapter that is included in the kit. And it is made out of plastic, just like the 2.2 intake manifold.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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I think there is a misunderstanding

Your intake manifold won't prevent you from running more pressure nor is it a huge restriction point.

Your stock intake manifold is just fine.

Do you understand how to run more pressure?
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 05:01 PM
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Adam, don't you know that more boost means more power? Flow has nothing to do with it.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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Ya. I am refering to the fact that if you run more boost you will blow your intake manifold. The intake in the pic almost looks metal, and thats why I was thinking of replacing it now. Blast!!
Anyone have any suggestions on a good intake manifold to go with the turbo kit??
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by XM15
Adam, don't you know that more boost means more power? Flow has nothing to do with it.
ROFL

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Ya. I am refering to the fact that if you run more boost you will blow your intake manifold. The intake in the pic almost looks metal, and thats why I was thinking of replacing it now. Blast!!
Anyone have any suggestions on a good intake manifold to go with the turbo kit??
God

Your intake manifold won't blow up. You will be fine.

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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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God

Your intake manifold won't blow up. You will be fine.
even if I throw some nitrous on there?? eventually....Rollermandan is a good example of this one!!
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by NJHK
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God

Your intake manifold won't blow up. You will be fine.
Did you move back to NJ Adam>?
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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even if I throw some nitrous on there?? eventually....Rollermandan is a good example of this one!!
Rollermandan flipped the window switch by accident during the launch. A 75 shot at 1500 rpms is not too good for anyone. The guy that has the alpine turbo kit had his manifold blow, but not before he was boosting 20+psi. Since the garrett kit starts at 8psi or so, you will be fine. I believe the 2.4 intake manifold is made sturdier than the 2.2 one to begin with, so don't get turned off just because its made of plastic. On a side note, plastic is a great insulator which is an advantage over an non-coated metal manifold. The bigger plenum and runners will probably actually be great for f/i anyways.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by XM15
Rollermandan flipped the window switch by accident during the launch. A 75 shot at 1500 rpms is not too good for anyone. The guy that has the alpine turbo kit had his manifold blow, but not before he was boosting 20+psi. Since the garrett kit starts at 8psi or so, you will be fine. I believe the 2.4 intake manifold is made sturdier than the 2.2 one to begin with, so don't get turned off just because its made of plastic. On a side note, plastic is a great insulator which is an advantage over an non-coated metal manifold. The bigger plenum and runners will probably actually be great for f/i anyways.
So the moral of this story is stick with what I have unless I boost like a mad man (which would not be smart and I'm not rich ) my stock manifold should be fine? Awesome - less money down the drain!!
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 06:44 PM
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^^^lol Something like that. You probably could get some good gains if you go with the 2.4 manifold for your turbo setup, but it isn't neccessary at all.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by NWAE Cobalt
even if I throw some nitrous on there?? eventually....Rollermandan is a good example of this one!!
To add to XM already stated

The reason he had a backfire is because of fuel puddling. Excess fuel that isn't traveling into the combustion chamber that puddles in the intake manifold + hot combustion chamber temperatures causes a explosion because fuel is a ignitor.

It would have happened regardless if it was a plastic or metal intake manifold because they are dry manifolds, meaning, they were only designed to carry air, not both air and fuel.

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Did you move back to NJ Adam>?
Yeah

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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by NJHK
To add to XM already stated

The reason he had a backfire is because of fuel puddling. Excess fuel that isn't traveling into the combustion chamber that puddles in the intake manifold + hot combustion chamber temperatures causes a explosion because fuel is a ignitor.

It would have happened regardless if it was a plastic or metal intake manifold because they are dry manifolds, meaning, they were only designed to carry air, not both air and fuel.



Yeah
And thus why I ask before wasting my money!! thanks guys!!
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by NWAE Cobalt
And thus why I ask before wasting my money!! thanks guys!!
You're welcome
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by XM15
Rollermandan flipped the window switch by accident during the launch. A 75 shot at 1500 rpms is not too good for anyone.
That's actually not exactly what happened. I never "flipped" a switch.

I was running the EFI wet nitrous system from Zex. The window switch worked (or not worked for that matter) with the TPS and was set for 2 pass mode and to come on at 3700rpms and turn off at 6300rpms. When revving the engine at the track I got up to about 3500 and my guess is that it read that it was at 3700. Lowered the rpms down to 3000 and then when the ambers were going it was back up to 3500 and nitrous started injecting into the intake (I could hear it and this happened within like a 1/2 a second from green) and as soon as I pressed the gas pedal, KABOOM! So I honestly don't know why it would have read it the way it did. The issue was a malfunction with the window switch that lead to fuel puddling.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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^^I couldn't quite remember how you said it happened, so I just put that you flipped the switch. lol All I knew was that the nitrous was prematurely activated. Fortunately for your engine though, you had a plastic manifold.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 07:06 PM
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So the fact the you had a plastic manifold was better...otherwise the metal would be shrapnel and take out EVERYTHING under the hood.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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So the fact the you had a plastic manifold was better...otherwise the metal would be shrapnel and take out EVERYTHING under the hood.
That would be hilarious to watch though lol
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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I couldn't even begin to imagine the amount of damage I would have had if it was a sheet metal intake manifold. It messed up 2 of the pistons and the other 2 were crispy. 8 of the valves were a bit crispy. Thankfully everything is getting taken care of now .
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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I couldn't even begin to imagine the amount of damage I would have had if it was a sheet metal intake manifold. It messed up 2 of the pistons and the other 2 were crispy. 8 of the valves were a bit crispy. Thankfully everything is getting taken care of now .
I saw that on your post - good luck to ya!!
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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In other news I have a brand new 2.2L intake manifold for sale if anyone needs it.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 07:15 PM
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^^I got 15+ lb/ft of mid range torque when I installed that mod! ROFL
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 12:56 AM
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Rllermandan....how much did that ost you to repair it and did you upgrade you intake manifold to the 2.3's or w.e. they are ?
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 04:29 AM
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Repair what? If you consider the build I'm doing, I'd say that's a major upgrade . I'll let you all know more soon about the build depending on what I do.
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