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Official Stg 1 & Stg 2 Comp Cams Review/Info Thread

Old Sep 7, 2008 | 02:02 AM
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Official Stg 1 & Stg 2 Comp Cams Review/Info Thread

Post your review and any information you have about the Stage 1 or Stage 2 Competition Cams, JPB cams or any other brand.

Stage 1 Comp Cams Review:

For anyone who already has all the basic bolt-on's like CAI, Intake Mani, Header, Dp, Catback.............
STG. 1 cams are a great way to make use of those mods. I would recommend that you get some form of tuning when installing these otherwise you won't get the full Hp Gains. Also I strongly suggest you get the Ecotec Camshaft Sprocket Holding Tool (Part# J-43655) since it makes the cam swap much easier and less costly if your having a shop install them. The Camshaft Sprocket Bolts are not re-usable so p/up 2 of those from your local GM Dealership before you start your project. (About $10 Each) I decided to get a new OEM valve cover gasket (About $65) but some members said that it can be saved and re-used so that's your choice. My install cost was 3 hours Labour.

Lots more Hp and Torque above 3000 rpm's. I would estimate about 10-15 Hp after the trifecta tune and using 92 oct. fuel. If your not upgrading your springs, retainers and Seats then I don't recommend going past the stock redline (6500 Rpm's)
The car idles at around 1100 rpm's and sounds like a drag racer about to launch and that get's people staring at you alot if you like that sort of thing.
The car vibrates more with the cams and I don't have any Poly engine or trans. mounts so if you have solid mounts get ready for some vibes. My exhaust tone is louder since the cams push more air out than before but it's still reasonable. That's why I decided to go with a custom 2 1/4" Dp and the GMPP Touring catback just to keep noise levels down on long road trips.

Alright here's some video clips as req. by Copson20, PenguinPie and others

#1. Before the STG. 1 Cams with all the basic bolt-on and a trifecta tune
http://s453.photobucket.com/albums/q...kCustomTip.flv

#2. After STG.1 Cams + New Tune at Idle and a couple of revs
http://s453.photobucket.com/albums/q...sVideos004.flv

#3. Start from inside the car, Idle. Notice how when you start it the rpm's bounce up and down twice then it stabilizes and idles at around 1100 rpm's
http://s453.photobucket.com/albums/q...sVideos003.flv

#4. 1st, 2nd and 3rd Gear during regular driving. Notice towards the end of the video when I lay off the gas it's very quiet almost like stock.
http://s453.photobucket.com/albums/q...sVideos002.flv

#5. Highway drive with the windows closed just to show you it's as quiet as when it was stock.
http://s453.photobucket.com/albums/q...sVideos001.flv

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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 05:14 AM
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nice review i like that idle, i wish i could of gotten them , but i got more mods to come, and more money to burn so i will have them eventually
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 09:44 AM
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Im getting the stage 2 cams around Christmas time. I was going to talk to bates engineering about a deal on the valve springs.
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 11:33 AM
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You should be able to rev up to 7500rpms on stock valvetrain. 7000 to be safe.
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 01:45 PM
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very nice
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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when can we get a vid of some of you guys actually going WOT to redline with these cams?

who cares about sound, lets see how these bitches perform. Cluster vid please, thanks.
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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so for stage 1 cams, a tune is not needed right away, but would the car run like crap without the tune?
Also how would the car run if you had it tuned already for just full bolt-ons?
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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I would really like to get the Stage 2 cams for my car, once I finish the Camaro...
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JSneeks
so for stage 1 cams, a tune is not needed right away, but would the car run like crap without the tune?
Also how would the car run if you had it tuned already for just full bolt-ons?
Yes it runs like crap just ask any member who installed cams they will agree and I got a C.E.L. within 10 minutes of driving. 3 days after installing them I had the Trifecta GT Tuner delivered with a new tune for STG. 1 cams.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:38 AM
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My car with Stage 1 cams at WOT

Originally Posted by IonNinja
when can we get a vid of some of you guys actually going WOT to redline with these cams?

who cares about sound, lets see how these bitches perform. Cluster vid please, thanks.
not the best but its good.


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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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Sounds good but not as extreme as I was thinking.

I was expecting a spike like V-Tek but it sounds much more linear than that which is nice
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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http://s348.photobucket.com/albums/q...t=632ea2b1.pbr
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:48 AM
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Cool
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 12:01 PM
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that is awesome sounding, im jealous. definately one of the next mods i do.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 12:14 PM
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what is your redline set to now with the cams?

also are you guys still having any drivability issues after the tune?
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 12:37 PM
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Anybody dyno test with the cams yet?
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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Anybody dyno test with the cams yet?
x2 I wanna see before and after results. or just after I don't really care haha
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 02:41 PM
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my redline is set to 7,100

Well since the 05 and 06's are missing the base running airflow table in the Ecu Vince couldnt change how the throttle blade opens and closes cause the engine must more are flow now with the cams. it is only at start up it is a little choppy . but other than that it runs smooth at WOT very very responsive. vince has my car running 27 degrees of timing 21 at idle that is nuts.

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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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definately interested in dyno results.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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Im going to the track tonight. we'll how good they are LOL
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 04:08 PM
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Best of luck

Break into the 14's and you will be one of the first N/A cars to do it. Hell take weight out if you have to.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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Yeah with out NOS and i will be the fastest NA cars on SS.net
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Sw4y1313
You should be able to rev up to 7500rpms on stock valvetrain. 7000 to be safe.
7500 is barely safe. it might last 6 months with "spirited" driving before something breaks and trust me it's not cheap to fix. There's springs and retainers available if you want to do this. http://ottperformance.com/product_in...13aa7d70ee8349

On my older balt my tune bumped the redline to 7k and it ran like a champ but I wouldn't trust anything higher.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by copson20
Yeah with out NOS and i will be the fastest NA cars on SS.net
post in here your numbers lol
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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Man i love the idle sonds great. How much for the cams can it be done on an 08?
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