2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old Jun 26, 2020 | 02:52 PM
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Probably a dumb question

Okay guys,

Car is an 04 ion with a bunch of bolt ons.

Rear beam bushings are beyond shot. I have an 05 SS parts car.

So instead of paying to have a shop press in new bushings for me, I plan to just 5 lug rear disc swap. I know it won't be much different, but the only thing I need to buy is rotors and pads for the front. I have everything else (brake lines, e brakes cables, calipers, etc)

Now, while I'm waiting on front brakes to come in, can I swap the rear end and keep the l61 brakes up front with the rear disc?
I'm concerned about it messing up the proportioning. I dont see it being much different. But I rather not take a chance when it comes to brakes.
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Old Jun 26, 2020 | 03:53 PM
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You'll be find running the rear disks and l61 fronts. Might make the back end lock up a bit sooner under heavy track braking, but not anything an experienced and paying attention driver cant handle.
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Old Jun 26, 2020 | 05:27 PM
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Awesome. Thank you!

Not tracking the car until I get a few more kinks worked out.
Just trying to figure out the cars down time.
tires for these redlines wheels are next
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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 08:46 AM
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From what I have been told the rear drum cars are configured with more rear bias than the rear disc brake cars. I would recommend doing some hard brake testing in a safe location to determine if the rears are going to lock up way to early or not. You don't want to find that out in an emergency situation.
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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 09:37 AM
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rear beam bushings are available from rockauto pretty cheap.... might be much easier then an entire shop
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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 03:03 PM
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From what I have been told the rear drum cars are configured with more rear bias than the rear disc brake cars. I would recommend doing some hard brake testing in a safe location to determine if the rears are going to lock up way to early or not. You don't want to find that out in an emergency situation.
Brake lines were rusted to the tabs on the rear beam. They'll be in when my front brakes get here so imma just finish the swap all at the same time.
But yea, was planning on doing that at like 2am to be safe

Originally Posted by blu3_v1p3r
rear beam bushings are available from rockauto pretty cheap.... might be much easier then an entire shop
I had almost everything sitting here to do the swap. Was just gonna do new bushings but I have no way to press them in. Otherwise my life would be a lot easier right now. Lmao
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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 03:20 PM
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Brake lines were rusted to the tabs on the rear beam. They'll be in when my front brakes get here so imma just finish the swap all at the same time.
But yea, was planning on doing that at like 2am to be safe

I had almost everything sitting here to do the swap. Was just gonna do new bushings but I have no way to press them in. Otherwise my life would be a lot easier right now. Lmao
Make sure you do that brake test in a large empty parking lot. A rear-end lockup can turn bad real damn fast.

Also, Harbor Freight has some decent tools for pressing in bushings and such manually. I'm not sure how well they'd cover something as large as what the rear beam bushings are though, but I imagine they have stuff for larger vehicles (I got mine for small vehicles; wasn't concerned with large bushings).
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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 06:12 PM
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Make sure you do that brake test in a large empty parking lot. A rear-end lockup can turn bad real damn fast.

Also, Harbor Freight has some decent tools for pressing in bushings and such manually. I'm not sure how well they'd cover something as large as what the rear beam bushings are though, but I imagine they have stuff for larger vehicles (I got mine for small vehicles; wasn't concerned with large bushings).

Yea. Movie theatre 2 streets over is still closed. Nice sized parking lot. Figure baby it the 2 blocks then do some actual driving tests there.
rears are the same size as the front l61 if i remember correctly.

Brake lines will be here tomorrow and front pads to swap to lay fronts are expected wednesday so I may just leave the car alone til Wednesday. Thought front parts were gonna be here tomorrow. Just can't read. Haha
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Just wait till you have all the brake parts, increasing the front to the LSJ will help reduce the bias.
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Old Jun 29, 2020 | 09:45 PM
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I just decided to do that. Dont need the car for anything but I enjoy driving it.
redline wheels look good on the sedan, too.

After I get it inspected and registered need to get it lowered and some other suspension mods.

But it has almost 300k and still pulls pretty good for a 5 speed l61.

I'll post a picture once im done and wash the car. First white car ive ever owned and its a pain to keep clean
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Old Jul 2, 2020 | 03:47 AM
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Okay, everything is in.
Need to bleed the brakes again as I still feel like air is in the system.

I moved the car over a few spots at my apartment complex. It feels like the rear end is dragging. Calipers turned/compressed fine, so I'm thinking the ebrake cable mechanism is seized. I had to almost fully loosen the nut on the ebrake to get them into the fitting. Only a few threads left.
On the caliper, where it connects to, does that actually spring forward and back to lock and release? I couldn't move that at all. I felt a lot of tension trying to pull the hand brake up.
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Old Jul 4, 2020 | 11:04 PM
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Mechanism for the ebrake cables are seized. Have another set coming.
haven't really touched the car since I figured that out.

Overall this swap wasn't that difficult. Just rust issues and the caliper issue.

Car is literally a $500 beater with working heat and a/c. So it's all for good fun.
Wheels have some curb rash that I'll clean up.

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