2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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So, anyone put a supercharger on their 2.2 yet? I would have got one in the first place but they were in high demand and couldnt get one for a few months, and i got a hell of a deal on my balt $9000 bucks for a $19000 LS brand new! So anyway i want a supercharger or maybe a turbo. Are there any kits, how much do they cost and how much to install???
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 06:12 PM
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I'm going turbo, more power can be made from them. Hahn racing makes some nice turbo kits for our cars. as for S/C, there were rumors that gm was releasing a retrofit kit to fint the SS blower on the 2.2L but like i said, just a rumor
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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http://www.paceperformance.com/index...&ProdID=167186

just a rumor eh?

BTW Friar, there's no H in Ecotec. Sorry, that just really bugs me, like when people add an H to Vtec.
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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hey slowion2, will that supercharger for the 2.2 fit the 06 model, becuase it say up to 05
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Guy who is buged by ECOTECH
Sorry, that just really bugs me, like when people add an H to Vtec.
ECOTECH ECOTECH ECOTECH ECOTECH ECOTECH ECOTECH ECOTECH ECOTECH ECOTECH ECOTECH

Ecotech, hmm must be french...
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 06LSjunkie
hey slowion2, will that supercharger for the 2.2 fit the 06 model, becuase it say up to 05

No, actually it wont fit. The 2002-2005 cavaliers and sunfires that are equipped with the ecotec engine are setup for the fuel managament system called speed density, its where it uses a pre-set fuel trim data and the MAP sensor, and the throttle to give the car fuel, where as our cobalts are mass-air flowed. So, you'd have to do some custom work to make the kit work with the pcm.
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 09:53 PM
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while it might fit since bolt pattern is still the same, as dnbguy stated the cobalts meter airflow via a MAF over the speed density system with a MAP. my apologies, I had that bookmark since the 03 and 04 Ions, such as mine, all are speed density, but the 05-06's are all the same as the Cobalts.

however, if you look in the current Ecotec Performance Build Book (black cover) that I'm sure most of you guys are familiar with, the first or second section shows the install of an LSJ intake manifold/aftercooler, blower, pulley system, and so forth for the entire working assembly, as well as the flash code number at the end of the install walkthrough to utilize the proper tuning. and yes, this install was for those with a MAF, and I want to also say the throttle by wire system that you guys have, though I may be mistaken.

point being, it's possible, and I know I've seen the actual GMPP part number for the full kit.

there is also a company named SpeedMafia which utilizes Procharger C-1 and C-2 units in their kits. the owner is someone I know pretty well, and I'm sure he'd work with any of you guys to make the kit work on a Cobalt.
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 11:04 PM
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PLEASE TELL ME THAT THIS WILL FIT AUTOMATIC 2.2 05' BALTS sedans
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 07:53 AM
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sorry about the ecotec mispell, i sometimes like mash buttons.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 07:58 AM
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drools.....over super charger kit pic.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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youll be happier with turbo
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by celicacobalt
youll be happier with turbo
you're probably right about that
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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i heard turbos are more likely to blow an engine
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FRIARPOP
i heard turbos are more likely to blow an engine
they're no more likely than a supercharger or nitrous would be. it's all about the setup, and, in the case of mechanical forced induction especially, the tuning

whether you throw a blower or turbo on an engine and have no idea what you're doing, don't expect it to last long if at all.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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That's where I ordered my GM Supercharger for my Z24 from. Paceparts is a great place to deal with! The reflash will have a different part number for automatics. That kit is intercooled too (Z24 supercharger wasn't). If I had a 2.2, that's the way I'd go.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 10:01 PM
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SOME ONE Answer!!!!!!! WILL THE SUPERCHARGER WORK WITH THE AUTO TRANS. 2.2
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 11:58 PM
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250 Hp on a cavalier.....? are those numbers true using the 2.2 supercharger only....?
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 12:53 AM
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would the the S/C for the cavalier work on the 2.2L cobalt with the application of either a standalone or piggyback ECU, and reflash.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 01:05 AM
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I'm Going Whit The Turbo A LITTLE MORE POWER
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by razorhead89
SOME ONE Answer!!!!!!! WILL THE SUPERCHARGER WORK WITH THE AUTO TRANS. 2.2
Yes it will. I just read the installation manual (PDF below supercharger information in link). The reflash like I said will have a different part number for the automatic calibration that GM uses to get the flash. The reflash part number for the automatics will be 12590819. There you go!
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 09:24 PM
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Thank you....2k5ss
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 10:00 PM
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No problem, just here to help everyone move foward in the performance department!
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 10:18 PM
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sorry guys i dont understand alot cause im a little slow...so if i get that 2.2 supercharger kit and get the reflash it will work or will it still not work because of the fuel system.??
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by FRIARPOP
sorry guys i dont understand alot cause im a little slow...so if i get that 2.2 supercharger kit and get the reflash it will work or will it still not work because of the fuel system.??
the problem isnt the fuel system, they are mentioning the problem of a mass airflow sensor. the reflash should take care of those problems.

the reason it is listed to 05 only is because it will not fit the cobalt without modification. i think there was some mention of it in the build book somewhere. not a deal breaker though, it wasnt a major mod to fix. i may get my hands on one this summer so i can let you know of any issues.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 08:23 PM
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What does it take for the supercharger to increased from 145 to 200 to 250??? Where do you get the 250 hp from....? What are the extras mods added for the supercharger....?
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