2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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surge chip

this thing sounds like a bunch of BS to but im still learning.....herd many bad things about chips including JET...is a tune always better?
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:34 AM
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Yes a real tune is better, but you 2.2 guys got the short end of the stick when it comes to tuning...

Look into AEM, or Trifecta for your tunes... don't trust a chip!
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:35 AM
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hmm the chips are alot cheaper but i have read some horror stories...is there any safe chip at all?
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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Negatory my friend
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:38 AM
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No there is no "safe" chip.... getting a real tune from Trifecta or using a standalone from AEM or whomever is the "BETTER" way to go!
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:39 AM
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hey quikie if i get springs what else am i supposed to get
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:39 AM
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If your 2.2 ECM has connectors that are in a row -- top-to-bottom (NOT 2 connectors side-by-side) Jet Chip has a stage 1 module or a stage 2 module that you can use. They do provide some increased peformance. These are not a "Chip" -- Jet Performance makes them. They are more like a piggyback system.
If you can find and trust someone with HPTuners by all means or if you want to try the other tunes, trifecta, for example, other posters have had some luck with them.
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:41 AM
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If your 2.2 ECM has connectors that are in a row -- top-to-bottom (NOT 2 connectors side-by-side) Jet Chip has a stage 1 module or a stage 2 module that you can use. They do provide some increased peformance. These are not a "Chip" -- Jet Performance makes them. They are more like a piggyback system.
If you can find and trust someone with HPTuners by all means or if you want to try the other tunes, trifecta, for example, other posters have had some luck with them.
Dude they are a chip.... meaning canned tunes.... which are just plain badnews!
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:42 AM
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lol wow there is soooo much to learn...i see you have a JET chip is it better then the surge chip i was readning about
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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Dude they are a chip.... meaning canned tunes.... which are just plain badnews!
NO...they are a module that you plug into your ECM, and they work rather well....I've had mine in since may and it provides better low end performance.

Canned tune is overused in this forum. EVERY Cobalt comes with a "canned tune" from the factory.



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lol wow there is soooo much to learn...i see you have a JET chip is it better then the surge chip i was readning about
Best I can tell you is to read through some of the threads by 2.2 owners that have the Jet Performance modules. The people that had problems with them were the guys that have ECMs with 2-connectors side-by-side -- the module does not fit those ECMs.

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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:47 AM
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Yes yes they do.... that is correct but also a very safe, very conservative tune... when you start getting into adding timing and leaning cars out you need to be very CAREFUL about what you choose. If you choose to use a "CAN" tune then go ahead, having the adjustability of a Custom tune will be far more beneficial in the long run!

Every Cobalt is different, my tune on my car won't work on some other cars....
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 12:01 PM
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can a chip damage my car as bad as i have herd as worse! i have an LS not ss tho does that matter?

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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 12:40 PM
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To my knowledge there is no record of any Cobalt/G5 ever being damaged by a properly installed JET module

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hey quikie if i get springs what else am i supposed to get
If youre talking about valve springs, all you need is springs.

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can a chip damage my car as bad as i have herd as worse! i have an LS not ss tho does that matter?

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What have YOU "heard"?

I haven't read any 2.2 owners' posts that have had damage due to the Jet Performance module on this site or other Cobalt sites I keep up with. There have been a couple of posts where the owner recieved a defective module and had to send it back for a replacement. Read the other posts on the module in the 2.2 forum to help you make up your own mind. I'm very happy with the module in my Cobalt.
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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hmm it was some guy on here i think...but i guess he did not properly install it.......you posted under it....
car wouldent start..or anything...but i agree with you after searching i also havent seen any problem with a CORRECTLY installed jet chip...i guess correct install is half the battle....are they hard to install
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 02:28 PM
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ur other option is something like the AEM F/IC
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 03:11 PM
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okay im looking at the jet site and what is the difference between the module and the chip...any recc's on stage one vs stage two? and would the MAF sensor from jet be worth buying...its called power-flo MAF this is what they say "Powr-Flo Mass Air Sensor
Part #: 69143

The JET Powr-Flo Mass Air Sensor delivers improved horsepower, torque and mileage from your car, truck or SUV by simply replacing the restrictive stock mass air sensor. The factory sensor not only is a major restrictive point in stock intake systems, but it also limits the full potential of aftermarket cold air intake systems. The flow bench tested design of the JET Mass Air Sensor provides airflow increases of up to 45% and installs in 10 minutes or less. Compatible with other aftermarket upgrades such as computer upgrades, cold air intakes, TBI spacers, free flow exhaust systems,"

im trying no to sound too ignorant!! hahah thanx

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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 04:02 PM
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I dont think think that the MAF on the L61 is all that restrictive, its not the same style sensor as when JET first started making high flow MAFs, our sensor is just a little "blade" type deal that slides into the intake tube, unsure how they could dramatically improve upon that.....
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 04:54 PM
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hmmm okay....i think im gunna go with a jet chip.....*GULP*
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 06:21 PM
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good luck.......






can I sell you some muffler bearings?
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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hmmm okay....i think im gunna go with a jet chip.....*GULP*
I think you will be satisfied with it. I am with mine. Jet Performance has been in business making modules and proms for 20+ years. Don't think they'd be around if they made stuff that didn't work -- AND I don't think JEGS or Summit Racing would sell them if they knew selling stuff that didn't work would hurt their sales too.
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 06:37 PM
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But we dont have promm
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tru2nrtt777
But we dont have promm
Appears you might have a slight reading problem so I enlarged the important words above
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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Haha, dick. I didnt notice "and"
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Haha, dick. I didnt notice "and"
That's Sir ***** to you
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