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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 12:51 PM
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Sway Bars?

I auto-cross and I'm decent at it but my car is holding me back now. The only mod i have right now is an Eibach pro-kit which i got a good deal on. As I was talking to the pro's they said instead of concentrating on power, I should concentrate on suspension first. They suggest sway bars, but I cant find them for my '08 LT. Anybody know any websites that would have them? Or anybody have any suggestions on other mods? Im not looking for big mods like a turbo or supercharger because I plan to sell my car in a year or 2. And I also have a 5 year warranty that I don't want to void.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 12:54 PM
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ttr sway bar

http://www.turbotechracing.com/produ...idproduct=5148
best and biggest you can get

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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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Is that for an SS or a 2.2? Because i know the measurments are different for both. And what about front sway bars?
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 12:59 PM
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Seeing as you have the eibach pro springs, and the eibach sway bar kit was designed to go hand-in-hand with them, that's what I'd recommend. You would need new endlinks as well though:

http://eibach.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.exe...32773800030048

EDIT: Front sway bar options are either the 24mm FE5 with other endlinks, either FE5 or aftermarket
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by WeekendWarrior203
Is that for an SS or a 2.2? Because i know the measurments are different for both. And what about front sway bars?
NOT DIFFERENT.

for front sway, you need to drop the whole subframe. but a strut bar would help.

the only front sway i know of is a) the cobalt ss has a big ass one, or b) eibach has one that comes in a kit with the rear, and i think suspension techniques r something like that has a kit for front and back.

THEY MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 01:15 PM
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Does the eibach kit come with the endlinks?

EDIT- And do i still need to drop the sub-frame with the eibach kit?
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 02:47 PM
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A front anti-sway that works on any Cobalt will work on your Cobalt, they are all essentially the same, you just have to change bar mounts on some cars without FE5.

Be careful putting a rear sway bar on, it may put you in a class in which you are way outy of your league.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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eibach has never even made their sway bar kit, ask TTR, they offer it, but have never even produced one, get the TTR rear sway bar, get the MRZ front strut bar, those r the best available...and will help your handling, the frotn sway bar is 19mm on the 2.2, and 22mm on the Fe5 suspension
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jn2
eibach has never even made their sway bar kit, ask TTR, they offer it, but have never even produced one, get the TTR rear sway bar, get the MRZ front strut bar, those r the best available...and will help your handling, the frotn sway bar is 19mm on the 2.2, and 22mm on the Fe5 suspension

FE1 - 19mm
FE3 - 22mm
FE5 - 24mm
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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eh i was off from the SS and the SS/SC, oh well, either one is better than the ls sway stick, ive seen bigger branches on a jalapeno tree
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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eh i was off from the SS and the SS/SC, oh well, either one is better than the ls sway stick, ive seen bigger branches on a jalapeno tree

HOLY ****!!!!





Jalapenos grow on trees!?!?!??!
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 07:09 PM
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HOLY ****!!!!





Jalapenos grow on trees!?!?!??!
heh heh...peppers a fruit....but don't grow on trees

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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by shabodah
Seeing as you have the eibach pro springs, and the eibach sway bar kit was designed to go hand-in-hand with them, that's what I'd recommend. You would need new endlinks as well though:

http://eibach.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.exe...32773800030048

EDIT: Front sway bar options are either the 24mm FE5 with other endlinks, either FE5 or aftermarket
Eibach has not made these bars yet, just keep claiming that they are coming. This has been the same story for atleast the past 2 years.

If you want a set, you should look at the suspension techniques bars, believe that they have adjustable end links. Not sure what effect the adjsutments could have though.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by shabodah
Seeing as you have the eibach pro springs, and the eibach sway bar kit was designed to go hand-in-hand with them, that's what I'd recommend. You would need new endlinks as well though:

http://eibach.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.exe...32773800030048

EDIT: Front sway bar options are either the 24mm FE5 with other endlinks, either FE5 or aftermarket
Eibach does not have the sway bars released, they have been stating "2 more months" for 3 years now....

It will be at least spring time (2009) before they are shipping
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboTechRacing
Eibach does not have the sway bars released, they have been stating "2 more months" for 3 years now....

It will be at least spring time (2009) before they are shipping
Originally Posted by YSUsteven
Eibach has not made these bars yet, just keep claiming that they are coming. This has been the same story for atleast the past 2 years.

If you want a set, you should look at the suspension techniques bars, believe that they have adjustable end links. Not sure what effect the adjsutments could have though.


Well that's some bullshit there.

Originally Posted by arkkornkid
heh heh...peppers a fruit, fruit grow on trees
Tomatoes are a fruit, they don't grow on trees. I have lots of peppers in my garden, and none of them are trees.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Fe5 front bar, TTR rear, MRZ strut bar, competion knuckles from GM, springs, RAW subframe bar thats what i would do if i autox'd
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 08:24 PM
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most fruit grows on vines.......

fruit are fruit because its the flesh, seeds and seed bearing portion of the plant that you eat. Vegetables you dont eat eat the seed bearing porion and in many cases you actually only eat one reandom structure of the plant. Vegeable is a culinary term, not a biological one, so you can call anything you like a vegetable, but that doesnt change the fac that if its got seeds in the portion you eat that its a fruit

Tomatoes get called vegetables because the Supreme court ruled it that way in 1883(Nix v. Hedden) which was a case involving, come on you can gues....you got it, taxes. The tomato while technically a fruit was being taxed as a vegetable(imported fruit received no tax) and this led to the Supremem court case.

The tomato is the official VEGETABLE of NJ. the state use the Nix ruling to justify the claim.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 08:35 PM
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I recend my trees comment on the basis it makes me look like a dumb ass
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jn2
Fe5 front bar, TTR rear, MRZ strut bar, competion knuckles from GM, springs, RAW subframe bar thats what i would do if i autox'd
And then youd need to gut your car and add 150hp to be competitive after all those mods put you in SM, LOL
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 11:07 PM
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Fe5 front bar, TTR rear, MRZ strut bar, competion knuckles from GM, springs, RAW subframe bar thats what i would do if i autox'd
I was reading on the autox forums, they say just rear sway bar, strut bar, springs (which i already have) and tires. My all seasons are terrible for autoxing which is obvious. But i started out autoxing just for the hell of it but now its an addiction. So I want to mod my car, but not so much to the point where im in classes with STI's, EVO's and Mini Coops. So all this has helped alot besides the fruit talk. The plan is to buy the MRZ strut bar and TTR rear sway bar asap. Since the autox season is almost over I'll stick with my al seasons until next season and ill buy summer tires. I'l probably do some minor engine mods like CAI, lightweight pullys, exhaust etc.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bridfi
for front sway, you need to drop the whole subframe. but a strut bar would help.
Not true, install from the passenger side and it is easier because the trans mount isnt in your way till the bar is 3/4 way in.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 10:24 PM
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Hmmm...FE5 frt sway bar is 5mm larger? I just added another mod to my future list.

So to switch out the frt sway bar, all I need are these?

http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...P1662C188.aspx
http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...P1663C188.aspx
http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...P1661C188.aspx
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 10:30 AM
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pears,oranges,apple,and bananas grow on trees and they are all fruit....so no they dont only grow on vines
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 10:36 AM
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get a good set of tires.
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by crakums
pears,oranges,apple,and bananas grow on trees and they are all fruit....so no they dont only grow on vines
Thanks for the info, but no one said they "only" grow on vines.
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