2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque
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160ish
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 01:19 AM
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What ballpark do YOU think my 2.2 will be in after I get the mods installed?

So far I have:
AEM Cold Air Intake
Magnaflow full catback exhaust

Coming Monday:
Pacesetter ceramic headers
Hyper voltage GT system
ECU/ECM and Tranny tune
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 01:20 AM
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the astrodome????
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 01:29 AM
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the astrodome????
Har har smart ass
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 01:33 AM
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are we talking whp here? If so you need some lower options...
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 01:35 AM
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how u gonna tune? there isnt one for the 2.2's. and you will prolly put down like 140-150 wheels and about 160 crank
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 01:39 AM
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 01:41 AM
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well now with the poll it all makes sense. lol. just playing dude. i say 170'ish
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 01:46 AM
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how u gonna tune? there isnt one for the 2.2's. and you will prolly put down like 140-150 wheels and about 160 crank
Thats what I thought too, but Nelson performance has a crack on the 2.2s. Their the only place in the country that can do it, thats why it ain't cheap. Up untill today I thought nobody could tune the 2.2 but apparently they can, their one of the best in the country and have already done a couple of custom tunes on other 2.2s. Plus the voltage GT system is showing wheel gains of 15hp and 16tq according to a dynojet. Now lets add that to 10hp from the intake, 10 for the exhaust, 10 for the headers, and 20ish for the tune. 120 hp to the wheels stock, plus 65 is 185.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 01:49 AM
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Thats what I thought too, but Nelson performance has a crack on the 2.2s. Their the only place in the country that can do it, thats why it ain't cheap. Up untill today I thought nobody could tune the 2.2 but apparently they can, their one of the best in the country and have already done a couple of custom tunes on other 2.2s. Plus the voltage GT system is showing wheel gains of 15hp and 16tq according to a dynojet. Now lets add that to 10hp from the intake, 10 for the exhaust, 10 for the headers, and 20ish for the tune. 120 hp to the wheels stock, plus 65 is 185.
Holy Ricer Math Batman!!!
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 01:49 AM
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Thats what I thought too, but Nelson performance has a crack on the 2.2s. Their the only place in the country that can do it, thats why it ain't cheap. Up untill today I thought nobody could tune the 2.2 but apparently they can, their one of the best in the country and have already done a couple of custom tunes on other 2.2s. Plus the voltage GT system is showing wheel gains of 15hp and 16tq according to a dynojet. Now lets add that to 10hp from the intake, 10 for the exhaust, 10 for the headers, and 20ish for the tune. 120 hp to the wheels stock, plus 65 is 185.
looks like ricer math to me. Dunno. Put it on the dyno and find out.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 01:50 AM
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where is this nelson place at? dont really expect 10 from intake and 10 from catback and 10 from headers. i highly doubt that they actually give that much to us 2.2s. what is the GT voltage system?
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looks like ricer math to me. Dunno. Put it on the dyno and find out.
I can't wait to get er on the dyno
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 01:55 AM
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sorry but a voltage system will not net you those gains.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 01:55 AM
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do it.

Are you auto or manual. Autos have no tuning available. At all. So far from what I've seen the only tuning available to the 2.2s is a/f related. No ign timing, no rev limit set, etc.

Also take advertised gains with a grain of salt. It's too easy to alter settings on the dyno or forget to mention other modifications used to acheive those gains.
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where is this nelson place at? dont really expect 10 from intake and 10 from catback and 10 from headers. i highly doubt that they actually give that much to us 2.2s. what is the GT voltage system?
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Originally Posted by CobaltFan06
Thats what I thought too, but Nelson performance has a crack on the 2.2s. Their the only place in the country that can do it, thats why it ain't cheap. Up untill today I thought nobody could tune the 2.2 but apparently they can, their one of the best in the country and have already done a couple of custom tunes on other 2.2s. Plus the voltage GT system is showing wheel gains of 15hp and 16tq according to a dynojet. Now lets add that to 10hp from the intake, 10 for the exhaust, 10 for the headers, and 20ish for the tune. 120 hp to the wheels stock, plus 65 is 185.
Nope, you will be in the 160 range if your lucky. I will bet you $50.00 you will not be at 185 even at the flywheel. You will be around 160 WHP tops, probably less. Not knocking you, just being realistic. When you start combining mods, you will not get the full HP as you would if you just did one of them to a stock motor.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 01:58 AM
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those gains were shown on a civic.....u can throw 5 stickers and get 25 instant HP on a civic
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 01:59 AM
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Your going to drive over 1600 miles to CA for a tune that will maybe net you 15HP??? You are crazy, just wait until someone else cracks the ECM.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 01:59 AM
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do it.

Are you auto or manual. Autos have no tuning available. At all. So far from what I've seen the only tuning available to the 2.2s is a/f related. No ign timing, no rev limit set, etc.
Dude I know I was on the same boat, I told them over and over that there isn't any, but they kept saying there was, they have an automatic transmission tune for the 2005-06 cobalts, they change the shift points by reflashing the tranny computer. I didn't get the details about the ecu/ecm reflash but when I asked if they could remove the govenor and change a/f ratio they said yes. I'm going to get full details tomorrow when I call em back.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 02:00 AM
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pm me with the info
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 02:01 AM
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Your going to drive over 1600 miles to CA for a tune that will maybe net you 15HP??? You are crazy, just wait until someone else cracks the ECM.
No haha, were taking the ecu/ecm and tranny comp out, shippin it to them, their tuning it on a computer according to the mods I listed, they will send it back, and I get free retunes for life.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 02:03 AM
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so you gotta send your **** to them? so no car for like 2 weeks?
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 02:07 AM
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I really don't see how tuning the a/f ratio has anything to do with the tcm... Personally I think they're playin you for your money. I'd be very careful in what services you ask them for.

Also be careful where you have them set your shift points. The last thing you need is to have a shift point past your rev limiter.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 02:09 AM
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No haha, were taking the ecu/ecm and tranny comp out, shippin it to them, their tuning it on a computer according to the mods I listed, they will send it back, and I get free retunes for life.
OK, that is a little better. So you want to take my $50 bet??? Come on, the thread is called taking bets. I will even drive out there to pick up my money when I win!!! Maybe I should tell you I am coming out there anyway the first of next year to visit family, I grew up in Lewisville, so you dont think I am crazy enough to drive over 1200 miles just for $50.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 02:10 AM
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so you gotta send your **** to them? so no car for like 2 weeks?
I'm sending the computers off sunday night, they overnight it, have it back by tuesday. Headers and GT system get installed monday while car is in shop.
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