I traded my 06 LS 2.2 for a 05 Cavalier 5spd. I have already ordered HP Tuners and a Turbo Manifold. I wish I could have hung in there, but sorry guys. I have an Injen CAI im selling hit me up. renaldo6@juno.com. BTW Even though the J seems like a worse off car. Its more comfortable. Better ride, and a half a second faster than the Balt. Plus I can tune and boost, and not worry aobut that damn forsaken ECU. Talk to ya'll later.

 

cool.

 

Nice Downgrade at least you stuck with GM

 

how much for the intake

 

well your still with gm ive thought about getting rid of the 2.2 myslef but jus to get a 2.4 instaed

 

i would have gotten a cavy too but i wanted the higher crash rating....cadaver...i mean cavies arent so good in boo boos

 

wow this cavy is wicked. base trim with only a/c, breaks the tires loose going into 3rd gear. not much of a looker but it moves very well for a stock J-body. if either of my J-bodys ran this well id have never gotten rid of em

i cant wait for his HPTuners to arrive. we need to tune the SS/SC (if i ever get the damn thing fixed)

i also have an 06 ls cobalt. the car makes me feel like "if i had to mod this thing i'd blow my brains out." its not nearly as solid or quick as my J's. but its a decent work car. relatively problem free *knocks on desk*

 

I owned a 2000 Z24 Cavy... and holy crap is my cobalt nicer! First off, try and shut your driver's side door on the cavy, then go to a cobalt and do the same... notice a difference?

The cobalt was MUCH, MUCH sturdier than the flimsy cavy i had. Road noise is terrible, because like stated, your driving in a tin can.

I will agree with you on being a quicker car... I loved the ability to roast the crap out of the tires in my cavy, but how practical is that anymore?

To each there own, I believe that GM Made a good decision in the design and remodeling of the cobalt.

 

Being a 4 time J-body owner, I loved all of them especially my 96 Sunfire GT but looking at it top to bottom inside and out, the Cobalt is the far superior vehicle.

 

yeah i actually hated my 2000 cavy

 

i had a cavie, and my cobalt is much nicer and way more comfortable in my opinion...

 

i have a 02 cav right now, and its not bad at all. Wish i could have found an 02 with the ecotec around here

 

i love the J's and love my 01 z24 with the charger but yea cobalt is still SO much nicer inside and out even though my cavi gets more looks! lol its pretty mean lookin

 

i traded an 03 cavy in on my cobalt and i will never look back the cobalt in my opinion is a much better built car overall and looks alot nicer lol

 

yeah..after putting 200,000 kms on my 98 cavalier....was real glad to trade for a cobalt, the wiring on my cavalier had issues the entire time, i also like the fact that my balt was built/assembled in the US instead of mexico...no offense to the mexicans but yeah...

 

this is wayyy off topic, but I had a 90hp plymouth laser

 

dont get me wrong, the cobalt is way nicer and has alot more room. i wouldnt trade my ss/sc for any j-body, my 98 cavalier was slow as hell, and i had nothing but problems with my 03 sunfire. im simply saying that the J outruns and outhandles the stock 2.2 cobalts that i have driven.

 

That is very easily fixed though. I would rather spend a couple hundred on performance and suspension parts to make the car handle a little better than I would dumping money into a J-body just to compare the ride quality I feel I get with my cobalt.

In my opinion in order to even say that a cavalier/sunfire has a equal quality interior, you would have to...

A. Buy a FEW dynamat kits.. because the J is a tin can. Road noise is terrible
B. Seats, rip them apart and add a few more cusions to them. Comfort is an issue
C. I think the dash cluster is much nicer as well, so yeah.

I drove both a 2.2L OHV Cavy then traded that in for a 2000 2.4L Cavy that i modded rather heavily and I must say that for a car that I bought stock, I wouldn't look back. The cobalt is far better in my opinion, even in my 2.2L Cobalt LT coupe.

*Not Trying to be a dick, just stating my opinion.*

 

Everything that he's talking about is for performing and modifying, not comfort and long driving. He wants to be able to do what he wants to a j-body, which now he can do. If he had the options to do whatever to his cobalt like a cavalier, he would have stayed. Honestly, you 2.2 guys might have to wait a good while like the J-bodies did for some decent support.

 

It's funny cause 2 years ago there was little support and limited products available.

 

nice!

 

but once we do...expect all hell to break loose lol

 

In all honesty, I support your decision. Of course, going from a heavier setup (cobalt) to a lighter one (cavy), your going to notice a difference in performance. It all depends on what you want to do. The cobalt is a vast improvement over the cavy in terms of refinement, however it is a bit heavier. I love my ION because it is more refined (in both ride, comfort and performance over my previous saturn, however my other saturn weighed 500 lbs less. I had the SOHC though so it didn't have too much to back it up. I love my ION because it is an all-around better package than my other saturn. So to each their own, but you'll be more happy with the J if you wanted simply performance. They have more aftermarket at this point in time, and it's a lighter and simpler platform to mod. Good luck.

 

When I was first looking at Cobalts it was the 2.2's. After a test drove of a few i decided i couldn't justify spending that much more for a 2.2 cobalt vs a 2.2 ecotec cavalier. Started looking for 2.2 cavy's to throw hahns kit on there and cost a hell of a lot less then the balt. But then i found the 2.4 and never looked back. Of course i was looking for something to mod from the start but i definatly see where this guy is coming from.