2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old 01-06-2009, 12:02 AM
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I see everybody else aksin it, so I might as well ask because Iam very curious to see where the end result would be? So please no flaming and just help me to see what I would be looking at...
-Short Ram Intake
-Cat-Back Exhaust
-2.4 Intake Manifold Swap
-Bigger Throttle Body
-Cams
-Forged Pistons (No Gains)
-Forged Valves (No Gains)
-Eagle Connecting Rods
-MRZ Lightweight Pulley
-Tune


Just curious If supercharged would it surpass all that is above right away, thank you!
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Supercharger stock > proposed mods
proposed mods+turbo=fun
Old 01-06-2009, 12:07 AM
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you will def see bigger gains going s/c. but as stated by JimzSS that would be a lot of fun too!
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Originally Posted by StrongIslandBalter
-Cat-Back Exhaust
-Bigger Throttle Body
-Cams
-Forged Pistons
-Forged Valves
-Eagle Connecting Rods
-MRZ Lightweight Pulley
-Tune
-blower or turbo
i guarentee you won't be happy with the mods you listed if you stay n/a and don't go nitrous, blower, or turbo

although your original setup would take to a 100shot nicely, but that wouldn't be "all the time" power

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Old 01-06-2009, 12:12 AM
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well i would definatley run nitrous witht hat set up...because come on thats like a bullet proof engine although I would just runa 75 shot to keep it safe I just wanted to see what numbers I would see with those mods w/o nitrous and yeah s/c would be cool too just wanna see what numbers would be with my original set up plus Iam pretty sure those mods with a nice shot will outrun a LS/SC

When you live on Long island and there cops pretty much everywhere I just wanna be able to fly down the service road occasionaly lol

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Old 01-06-2009, 12:14 AM
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people with fully bolted and tuned 2.2s dont come anywhere near a stock ss/sc. most are in the 150whp vicinity.

boost > N/A in 4 bangers
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prolly over 200whp...but i would turbo it first..imo
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hey ill matics the 200 whp thats the n/a set up right not the sc?
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Originally Posted by JimzSS
Supercharger stock > proposed mods
proposed mods+turbo=fun
pretty much what he said
Old 01-06-2009, 12:25 AM
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To Sc it I would need blower,manifold,injectors,belts,pulleys? and IDK i think I would be happier with the N/a set up on juice but we will all see in time )
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n/a most likely..full bolt on and internal work..dude i would just turbo it..and youll be over 200whp with that hahn kit

ill help with the install..lol
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I know, where on the island are you at? and IDK my problem is I would never be able to put aside the money for the kit like i had a lil extra money last week I bought the 2.4 kit Ill have a lil extra money this week I'll get my exhaust lol
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If you add n02 to that list you will be eating SC's for breakfast. No turbo required, just make sure you are down with the juice!

Don't go over a 75 shot, trust me on this one.
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thanx sentry for givin me the hope lol and yeah I have a lil checklist and it says 75 shot for somereason I dont care how good the intrnals can be I don't have the ***** to go over that so are we gathering that all those parts listed can ut the car between 190-200 whp and a nice shot of juice hopefully hit low 14's ) it is an automatic guys
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You wont see 200whp NA with that unless you go for higher compression pistons(11:1 or so), and a built valvetrain to support higher revs. Even though you have better cams, you still need to spin the engine faster then stock to see any real gains.

Your wasting your money upgrading pistons/rods/cams and not going FI. Why spend that much money on the parts + labor when your just going to throw juice at it. Have fun spending $60 to fill your tank up for a couple pulls thats not even street legal. Go FI if you upgrade your internals, you will get more for your money, guaranteed.
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im in huntington...where u at..if u need help with installs, let me know
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Yeah, leave out the internals. Just do a 75 shot with the bolt ons, and a tune.

You GOTTA get a transmission tune on these automatics, else you'll be running 15's.
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I thought If I ran juice I had to beef out the internals ?
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Originally Posted by StrongIslandBalter
I thought If I ran juice I had to beef out the internals ?
nope not for a 75 shot ive ran a 100 but i wouldnt recomend it at all..
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75 is all that GM says is safe. With new rods pistons you should be able to run a 100-125 shot.
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yeah ive seen that video...I hope that after doing some engine work ill be satisfied and when I need that extra power, I just have to press a button ) But yeah I wanna see what I can do w/o FI it. nobody really answered my firstt question though. After that list is installed. what do you think my whp numbers would be?
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Originally Posted by StrongIslandBalter
yeah ive seen that video...I hope that after doing some engine work ill be satisfied and when I need that extra power, I just have to press a button ) But yeah I wanna see what I can do w/o FI it. nobody really answered my firstt question though. After that list is installed. what do you think my whp numbers would be?
i would imagine with the mods you have listed you will feel almost no difference in performance. less than 1/2 a second off the 1/4 I would think. only thing that will really do anything is the cams, depending on what type and how good the tune is.

unless you have big, big bucks, you won't get anywhere n/a.
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Originally Posted by StrongIslandBalter
I thought If I ran juice I had to beef out the internals ?
You can run a 75 shot fine on stock internals. It's when you start pushing 250 is when you start having issues.

If you want to make sure you're fine, get your parts and then use your spray on a dyno to be sure.
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d4 your telling me If i install every part I listed, Ill barley notice a diffrence? I mean come on the car should feel a little peppier, no? The engine will be very strong internally then I can run a nice shot
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Originally Posted by StrongIslandBalter
d4 your telling me If i install every part I listed, Ill barley notice a diffrence? I mean come on the car should feel a little peppier, no? The engine will be very strong internally then I can run a nice shot
you're talking about a cam and basic bolt ons. it isn't going to make that much of a difference. with the bolt ons you won't notice anything, and you'll likely lose some low end power overall, which will make the car feel slower in the lower rpm range.


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