Just trying to see how many of you would "man up" to the occasion and participate in a 2.2L Turbo kit! (Alpine Developments)

http://www.tntautosport.com/store/in...b5aed9055f9516


Ok..for whatever reason, it didnt let me add a poll.


We DO offer layaway services.


Please call 1-800-676-0769 to find out more! Phone lines are open 7 days a week, 10am - 11pm (CST)

 

Well if you will let me borrow $3300 ill buy it...I think i have the other 50 in my acct so you wont have to let me borrow that.


Sorry man i just was in the mood to be a smartass. If i had the money right now i would jump all over it.

 

if i had the money, id consider it. but 150 isnt alot considering your still paying 3300.
i would let it gauge interest and see if people can save some cash by summer.

 

i need a better job! I love new parts

 

If I still had the 2.2 of course!

 

$3350 is the lowest i can go, since i can only buy them for $3349

 

oh wow, then yeah. can you get aligned with the new garrett kits? you may have better luck there if none on the alpines.
if i didnt have a wedding to help pay for, a new house and furniture, a new french drain in the basement as well as remodeling. id be all over that....

 

id also be all over it if there were tuning rather than what we have now, but im sorry it would be directly from alpine

 

As for Garrett kits, im actualy trying to get in with them to sell them.


Personaly, id rather take the piggy back over the stock ecm.

 

its a mix with me, i dont know enough about them yet to make a descicion.

 

why would you take tha piggyback over the stock with a tune?

 

i would be interested. I plan on installing a turbo but i just dont have that kind of money and it would take a long time for me to pay off a layaway program

 

if yo sell a tuned garrett kit for $3350, im there...however, the piggyback is:
1) a piggyback, and i dont like the idea of having to fool my ECM
2) a one time set tune, with no way to modify it
3) doesnt compensate for us SAI cobalts

 

I know you said 2.2 but I'll man up when a true 2.4 kit comes out, for an auto no piggy back

 

shouldnt you start a new thread in the 2.4 section

 

Turbo Kit price is about right. But a real serious question...do you offer engine management or have a link to a provider for our engines? $3.5K plus $1K-2K install is a good deal, but a $7K new engine replacement on top of that adds up.

I see it comes with a preprogrammed ECU. Is it a plugnplay for our applications or more like a piggyback system? What factory settings will be lost going with this ECU? There are tons of questions determining engine management.

This is a pretty vague statement, "ˇ Pre-programmed piggyback ECU, including wiring harness." And the link sends me to a page that is not working.

I'm not bashing, because I mean I would just jump all over it. Speaking of layaway...I'll send you a PM concerning that. My main concern is the engine management as I almost fried my ECU with a SAFC-II since there is no wiring diagram for that. I just want to know your preprogrammed ECU has been proven.

Oh yeah and dyno charts with those numbers?

 

No i'm just stating that I will participate when it comes out so I'm not going to start a thread just for a question that was asked why start a thread for that

 

Read the article here:

http://alpine-developments.us/Alpine...2520cooker.pdf

It goes into great detail about why the pibby-back is a superior solution to HPtune or similar approaches using the stock ECU. No CELs. No loss of any stock ECU function.

It's not a one-time tune. Read the article. It connects to a laptop and is fully programmable. Alpine sells it pre-tuned for the stock 2.2 (2.4 coming soon), but it can be tuned as easy as the 2.4 is with HP Tune.

The biggest advantage is it controls both additional fuel and timing advance. Supercharged engines opearate very linear, and tuning is a lot like a naturally aspirated engine. Turbos are much more flexible, and not compensating for additional fuel and retarded ignition under boost with a turbo is a much bigger deal. Yes, you can set your stock ECU rich enough, and back the timing off so it won't detonate under WOT and full boost, but it means it will run much worse under light load. The piggy-back ECU only messes with the timing under boost, and only adds extra fule under boost. The stock ECU cannot do this even if you can tune it, because it has no input for boost.

 

Thank you. I was unable to read the link listed under the kit due to a server error with them I guess. Got that 404 Not Known crap.

 

If I had the cash I'd be on it like a fat kid on free food.

 

i would def. be interested if i had the money.

 

Like I said, if any of you have questions regarding the product, or our layaway program or just want to talk, call the 800 # located in my signature!

 

with the pre-programmed piggy back ecu, is there any way to re-program after installation? and how long is the offer gonna stand for it to be only 3350?

 

is it compatible with an auto trans?

 

I had no trouble from work or from home.

I'll see if I can pirate it over to CobaltSS.Net.

I was at Alpine with my car a couple weekends ago (they're literally just down the street a couple miles from where I live). We think the pipe coming out of the turbo on the trans side of the car and going forward to the intercooler would need to be modified (the auto is larger than the 5-speed, and the pipe probably won't clear).

So the answer for now is "yes," it will work, but "no" it's not a direct bolt-in as it is for the 5-speed - some modification to that pipe would be necessary.

That said, Alpine is considering the problem as we speak...

Stay tuned with TNT for further updates!