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mikesbalt 02-27-2013 01:34 PM

turbo help
 
i could really use some help im trying to turbo my 2010 cobalt LS 2.2L i dont know what all i need to turbo it i have the trifecta tune figured out but i dont know what all i need turbo kit wise i have forund the ZZperformace kit but im not sure what else i will need any help would be appreciated

BankerBalt 02-27-2013 01:37 PM

gauges, a better tune, bigger catback

mikesbalt 02-27-2013 07:56 PM

Not quite the response i was looking for but i kinda posted for generics
I need to know what tune to get from where what guages kinda specifics

06_CobaltLS 02-27-2013 08:00 PM

Depends on how much you are willing to spend for each extra item on top of the turbo kit.

mikesbalt 02-28-2013 12:33 PM

The cost isnt important i just need a list of what else i need other than the tune turbo kit from zzp and a new clutch

rcarr0327 02-28-2013 12:50 PM

If you are going with the ZZP Kit for sure then that covers a lot.

Clutch:try Turbotechracing.com. a lot of people like KY Clutches and theyre not that bad
Gauges: Air-to-Fuel Ratio (AFR), I used a digital AEM Gauge. Boost Gauge, autometer, AEM, Glowshift, the list is endless. probably an Oil pressure gauge as well, same brands as listed before.
I liked having the AEM Digital AFR gauge with autometer boost and oil pressure Analog and mechanical.

Tune: you can go with Trifecta but some people dont like it and end up switching to HP Tuners.

Catback: whatever you want really.... 2.5" minimum id say. ZZP, Turbotechracing (TTR), Modernperformance (MPx), Tsudo, GM Performance Parts (GMPP) from crateenginedepot.com

Tires

Either a ZZP modified oil pan or take yours off and weld in a bung for oil return.

like i said, ZZP kit covers a lot of the necessary items. only really thing necessary after that kit is a tune. I had the ZZP and bought gauges, oil pan, gauge pod, and tune. later on i got tires and wheels and springs

574 02-28-2013 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by rcarr0327 (Post 6946922)
If you are going with the ZZP Kit for sure then that covers a lot.

Clutch:try Turbotechracing.com. a lot of people like KY Clutches and theyre not that bad
Gauges: Air-to-Fuel Ratio (AFR), I used a digital AEM Gauge. Boost Gauge, autometer, AEM, Glowshift, the list is endless. probably an Oil pressure gauge as well, same brands as listed before.
I liked having the AEM Digital AFR gauge with autometer boost and oil pressure Analog and mechanical.

Tune: you can go with Trifecta but some people dont like it and end up switching to HP Tuners.

Catback: whatever you want really.... 2.5" minimum id say. ZZP, Turbotechracing (TTR), Modernperformance (MPx), Tsudo, GM Performance Parts (GMPP) from crateenginedepot.com

Tires

Either a ZZP modified oil pan or take yours off and weld in a bung for oil return.

like i said, ZZP kit covers a lot of the necessary items. only really thing necessary after that kit is a tune. I had the ZZP and bought gauges, oil pan, gauge pod, and tune. later on i got tires and wheels and springs

This, spoon fed information. Not everyone is gonna do this... do some research man... do it right and turbo 2.2s are fast . Good luck

06_CobaltLS 02-28-2013 03:03 PM

Some people have good and bad luck with different gauges. I bought pro sport premium series boost gauge and digital AFR wideband and they work/look amazing. As far as a tune most people go with HPtuner for the 2.2s 07-up. Trifecta has problems with being too busy to get a data log modified and sent back and with HPT you can either get a dealer to come out and modify everything there or you can do it yourself. If you're an automatic then I recommend the B&M shift kit+ for stiffer shifts and a nice transmission cooler. Not sure about manuals since I'm auto as well. You will definitely want upgraded /wider tires to be able to hook up, otherwise you'll be spinning like crazy and wasting tread. Recommended cat back size for a turbo is 3.0" but you will be just fine with 2.5 or even 2.25 for little bit but not long. Plenty of great brands listed above by rcarr. Its easier to buy most of the misc parts from ZZP directly, such as: gaskets(if not already supplied with kit), ZZP oil pan with bung and fitting installed, and gauge pod/pillar and any other supplies you need. Its mostly self explainatory. Just do your research man, there's plenty of good turbo how-to's on here you can read up on for more info. Just be expected to upgrade your internals eventually as they are not rated for being boosted for very long. Some people have gone a week and blew up their motor and I know a guy who ran 291 HP on his 2.2 stock motor for well over a year. Good luck and don't be afraid to ask ANY questions you have, even if you think they are dumb questions. We are always happy to help fellow members.

rcarr0327 03-01-2013 01:43 PM

yea i was boosted for 2 years at 8psi and fine. my pistons are a little black but still good compression

mikesbalt 03-03-2013 12:44 PM

anyone know where to get forged rods and pistons a meatier crank better cams or valve springs and retainers boost rated stuff that is lol want to do this right i already ordered the turbo kit oil pan gaskets and arp head studs

nhanson 03-03-2013 12:55 PM

What are your goals?

You dont necessarily need to build the motor if you only want to be a little more quicker.

Rods and pistons get from Turbotechracing.com

Valve springs from ZZP

You dont need a crank

Get a stock head gasket (new one)

mexi_loco 03-03-2013 12:56 PM

you really won't need to do an engine build if you keep the boost low enough. But, if you're really interested, I have a friend that has a fully build 2.2 block for sale. It's a 10:1 compression ratio, but very well built. If you're really serious, I'll let him know and you can deal straight with him.

rcarr0327 03-03-2013 05:28 PM

a lot of people buy the wiseco pistons and eagle rods kit on ebay for like 800 bucks. 8.9:1 compression ratio.

stenguyen1 03-04-2013 07:01 PM

yea bro if you want a built motor i got one for sale for 4000.

check out my thread.

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/part...ywheel-293715/


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