2.2 vs 2.4
 

I was wondering how much faster is the 2.4 than the 2.2?

Is it worth the extra money for the jump to 2.4?

Simply put...yes...yes..yes-yes-yes-yes-yes. Better suspension, better engine (displacement wise) and the second fastest car for under 20,000, right below the V-6 mustang.

id like to take a run at a 2.4 auto specifically, but 5 speed would work, i expect it to be even tell vvt kicks in yo!

Yea in higher rpms it pulls a lot on the 2.2. I have a 2.4L SS and me friend has a 2.2, we raced when we both had an injen intake and it was close till about 60, then I pulled on him.

as a 2.4 owner, i recommend it. i drove a 2.2 on a test drive... the steering, handling, and power just arent there. they are very good, but if you want more performance w/o a sc, go with the 2.4

I own a 2.2, and even I would recommend that if you are thinking about a 2.4, that you should do it. Better aftermarket support, and much better right out of the box.

the 2.4 SS doesn't cost much more then a 3LT 2.2. For the money, i think the 2.4 SS is a fantastic car. i am absolutely loving mine. great power, awesome handling, and pretty good fuel economy considering the power; its usually about 26 in the city and 33 highway with my foot in it.

2.4 all the way. everyone has the 2.0 SC, i figured go with n/a 2.4 and build on the engine and itl be better than the 2.0 with stage 2 upgrade. so hows that.......:guns:
and i think the 2.4 is a better platform to build on than the 2.0 i dont know.

ryan.

Agreed:cssNET:

i got the 2.4 becuase it has the biggest engine, best mpg, best N/A hp, very good setup as for suspension and tires and interior then the 2.2, and i like it cuz its 5k cheaper than the sc and that 5k il spend on not gettin the sc with only 205 at the crank. ill spend 4k and get 270whp with the 2.4 and still have 1k lol pistons cams lol.

ryan. a good start usually ends with a good ending.

I agree with you as well on this. But there is another thread that this is an argument over.

ooh yes i beleive there is arguing over it. sc vs turbo 2.4 vs 2.0. i think the 2.4 will win the race. stage 2 2.0 sc whats that 260whp at most. and a 2.4 at about 270whp at most with good tune from hptuners or dyno tune which is definatly needed. i might get cams for that turbo to compliment it. maybe pistons too. that way ill be close to or at 300whp. might need to get new clutch and driveshafts too lol. gees it just keeps going and going.

ryan.

sorry but your reallu just pulling numbers out of your ass, every car is diffrent as far as numbers, and numbers dont always mean who is faster

i know every car is different but i know what im running and i know that i will be getting atleast 265whp for what il be doing. and as far as whos faster well with my numbers out of the cobalts will see.

ryan.

Huh I own a 2.4l and as far as the 2.2 and the 2.4 go STOCK ..there is no comparison performance wise .....however I beg to differ about the 2.0l and 2.4l if you can afford the 2.0 overall it is a much better starting point then the 2.4l better suspension and FI from the factory .....which also means most of all it is much easier to add a turbo to a stock 2.0sc then it is 2.4 ............Iam not trying to down our car guys Iam simply being modest i know our car is the SHIT when properly equipped .....however if were talking stock for stock it would be easier to start off with the 2.0l

I dunno its all opinion I have a 2.4 full boltons and it kicks ass!!! I cant even imagine FI on this puppy

however IN MY OPINION it would be much easier to turbo charge or hell TWINCHARGE the 2.0 and make more power EASIER.........


lets face the facts when properly equipped a honda can make 700whp and 250wtq haha :lol:

so its not about the car making power ...because that it can do witht the right equippement its just about How easy its going to be to make that kind of power and how much its going to cost you to make that kind of power......

to me cost doesnt mean anything its just the preperation and work. im not going to do it il have it professionally done.

ryan.

haha a true enthusiast lol most of us on here are either college students or not in that same position finacially lmao

if money is no issue then the 2.4 by far is the way to go:twothumbs

well i dont have lots of money just when the time comes for turbo hahn!!!!:cussing: then il borrow it from my grandpa and pay him back.

ryan.

u tell it like it is..i like that man..you seem like a kool kid wish u live around in pa so we can cruise:twothumbs

2.4 baby ftw

2.4 FTFW, we gots a sedan, love it love it love it.

lol are you looking to set up a date, lol your always looking for people to cruise with, but when asked to come to a meet or cruise you dont lol. so stop blowing smoke up peoples asses :lol: :guns:

i wouldnt mind doing a small meet again soon but i just dont want to drive to far.

ryan.

if you happy with the 2.2, then get it. if you want something more (performance, comfort, etc...) the 2.4 ss is ideal. i got mine for all the standard features (xm, pioneer,sport suspension,etc..), and the fatty 4 cylinder sounds nice....

-sean

btw...imo, performance wise i think he 2.2 and 2.4 are very close.

the way i think of it is like this.
if you are "thinking" about it now it means youd probably like the 2.4, but just arent sure about cost vs satisfaction.
if you dont do it...you will most likely regret the decision later.





oh and 205 at the crank?
*roffelgiggles*

ya the 2.0 SS/SC doesnt put down 205whp most people are putting down 225whp stock and thats like 250hp to the crank ........its no joke lol

who knows why GM markets the the 2.0 as 205hp when they have so much more AT THE WHEELS than that, i don't get why theyve underrated it so much 3 years in a row

to help keep insurance down I believe.

and to help civic SI owners think they have a chance *grin*

Thats awesome man, I like how you think.:ca:

LOL!!!! guys honestly. the 2.0 is a better car. interior, exterior, and under the hood. but the 2.4 is much cheaper and is excellent for the price. my 2.4 is stock atm because i just havn't been able to find anything i want yet. i almost lowered it but got a sound system instead. im planning on putting the best possible turbo and parts into my car to make it unreal! 2.4 TURBO COBALT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! amazing. but to properly make that turbo work with my engine and not have my engine stop working after acouple months ill need about another 5000$ of parts to compliment the turbo. im pumped at what we can do with the 2.4 or cobalt period. they are amazing cars and we probably shouldn't be fighting with eachother. 2.0 > 2.4 stock. but with the extra 5-6$, YESH we can make our cars amazing!

True that with 5-6$ you can make almost any car amazing.

DEFINITELY AGREE! :D boosted 2.4s FTMF(cost effective)W!!!!!!!

The SS/SC is a better platform to build off of right now...because.....it's CHEAPER. It's already set up for boost, it's got an oil intercooler already, it's easily set up for tuning, stronger pistons, larger fuel injectors, etc, etc. You can't just slap a $3,000 turbo on a 2.4l right now and think you'll be hauling balls, you have to factor in ALL the ancilliary costs associated with getting a NA engine ready for boost. PLUS the fact that they haven't worked out good tuning yet.
We have one guy right now that has put a turbo kit on his SS/NA. They are still working out the tuning and are stuck. Sure it makes close to 250 WHP at WOT, but he said himself that it bogs down like crap in mid throttle.
Give it a few years, let them work out the kinks, and you'll find the addage "There is no replacement for displacement." will be true and they'll be a few turboed 2.4l out there kicking everybodies ass.
Of course by then I'm sure that these SC boys will start swapping out their Eatons for turbos themselves.
I think the best thing to do right now is keep the 2.4ls naturally aspirated and get them as close to 200hp as we can. At that point we'll be walking over ANYTHING on the road with four cylinders that doesn't have spray or boost. :bye: Civic SIs

i don't know my 2.4 was 18K out the door 10/100K warranty... with every feature but leather seats and the premium sound( have an ion)... and whenever i tried to get a redline with the same features it was about 23K. and considering much of the 2.4L's internals are forged like the 2.0s, yes you get a bit better suspension, bigger rims, and an SC but lowering springs are like 200 bux, redline rear struts for about 150 then it's a very similar ride. and you can get a turbo/ sc package for a 2.4 for about 3K so by the time you put in all the money to equal price a s.4 should spank a 2.0. Some people have had better luck with tuning.

SI's :lol: poor little guys don't even know what hit them, even when we're stock. in the long haul the 2.4 will win out..

choice between 2.2/2.4 definitely 2.4 for the money it's amazing.

yup id say 2.4 for sure its expensive for everything but youl love the N/A power its amazing mine is pulling hard without sc or turbo YET! lol it pulls about 173whp right now and just under 200 crank hp. which is pretty good i never got to race a 2.0 stock yet i think itd be a close race. till i get my turbo then i could spank on some stage 2s lol.

ryan.

rlinden i'm surprised you're not pushing out more than that with all your mods i was figuring u'd be closer to 180-190 range WHP

yeah thats what i was hoping for about 180. but tom said with just full bolt ons and injectors and a good tune 175 tops i think. if i had it dyno tuned i probly could get about 180whp at the max. im working on some visual mods right now. and some more performance mods are yet to come. turbo kit is going to be put on professionally and dyno tuned theres no street tuning for it so and i figured since id be spending 4k midaswell spend a few more to get it done right. yeah the car pulls hard i love it right now but i think it can go alot faster.

ryan. im looking forward to being the fastest 2.4 out there but i dont know yet. lol:lol: and definatly as fast as a 2.0 stage 2 lol cant wait to race one theyll shit there pants.

ryan.

am i the onyl 2.4 putting down over 200whp right now?

lol 200 whp? whats your 1/4 looking like with those numbers, and hows the turbo any bugs still?

There's the few hahn proto's with 240whp