Cloudio

ya the 2.0 SS/SC doesnt put down 205whp most people are putting down 225whp stock and thats like 250hp to the crank ........its no joke lol

ironkoijak

who knows why GM markets the the 2.0 as 205hp when they have so much more AT THE WHEELS than that, i don't get why theyve underrated it so much 3 years in a row

an0malous

to help keep insurance down I believe.

and to help civic SI owners think they have a chance *grin*

coleryley

Thats awesome man, I like how you think.

kelownaSS4L

LOL!!!! guys honestly. the 2.0 is a better car. interior, exterior, and under the hood. but the 2.4 is much cheaper and is excellent for the price. my 2.4 is stock atm because i just havn't been able to find anything i want yet. i almost lowered it but got a sound system instead. im planning on putting the best possible turbo and parts into my car to make it unreal! 2.4 TURBO COBALT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! amazing. but to properly make that turbo work with my engine and not have my engine stop working after acouple months ill need about another 5000$ of parts to compliment the turbo. im pumped at what we can do with the 2.4 or cobalt period. they are amazing cars and we probably shouldn't be fighting with eachother. 2.0 > 2.4 stock. but with the extra 5-6$, YESH we can make our cars amazing!

06_cobaltSS

True that with 5-6$ you can make almost any car amazing.

elecblue06

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DEFINITELY AGREE! boosted 2.4s FTMF(cost effective)W!!!!!!!

monkeiboy

The SS/SC is a better platform to build off of right now...because.....it's CHEAPER. It's already set up for boost, it's got an oil intercooler already, it's easily set up for tuning, stronger pistons, larger fuel injectors, etc, etc. You can't just slap a $3,000 turbo on a 2.4l right now and think you'll be hauling *****, you have to factor in ALL the ancilliary costs associated with getting a NA engine ready for boost. PLUS the fact that they haven't worked out good tuning yet.
We have one guy right now that has put a turbo kit on his SS/NA. They are still working out the tuning and are stuck. Sure it makes close to 250 WHP at WOT, but he said himself that it bogs down like crap in mid throttle.
Give it a few years, let them work out the kinks, and you'll find the addage "There is no replacement for displacement." will be true and they'll be a few turboed 2.4l out there kicking everybodies ass.
Of course by then I'm sure that these SC boys will start swapping out their Eatons for turbos themselves.
I think the best thing to do right now is keep the 2.4ls naturally aspirated and get them as close to 200hp as we can. At that point we'll be walking over ANYTHING on the road with four cylinders that doesn't have spray or boost. Civic SIs

elecblue06

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i don't know my 2.4 was 18K out the door 10/100K warranty... with every feature but leather seats and the premium sound( have an ion)... and whenever i tried to get a redline with the same features it was about 23K. and considering much of the 2.4L's internals are forged like the 2.0s, yes you get a bit better suspension, bigger rims, and an SC but lowering springs are like 200 bux, redline rear struts for about 150 then it's a very similar ride. and you can get a turbo/ sc package for a 2.4 for about 3K so by the time you put in all the money to equal price a s.4 should spank a 2.0. Some people have had better luck with tuning.

SI's poor little guys don't even know what hit them, even when we're stock. in the long haul the 2.4 will win out..

choice between 2.2/2.4 definitely 2.4 for the money it's amazing.

rlinden86

yup id say 2.4 for sure its expensive for everything but youl love the N/A power its amazing mine is pulling hard without sc or turbo YET! lol it pulls about 173whp right now and just under 200 crank hp. which is pretty good i never got to race a 2.0 stock yet i think itd be a close race. till i get my turbo then i could spank on some stage 2s lol.

ryan.

elecblue06

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rlinden i'm surprised you're not pushing out more than that with all your mods i was figuring u'd be closer to 180-190 range WHP

rlinden86

yeah thats what i was hoping for about 180. but tom said with just full bolt ons and injectors and a good tune 175 tops i think. if i had it dyno tuned i probly could get about 180whp at the max. im working on some visual mods right now. and some more performance mods are yet to come. turbo kit is going to be put on professionally and dyno tuned theres no street tuning for it so and i figured since id be spending 4k midaswell spend a few more to get it done right. yeah the car pulls hard i love it right now but i think it can go alot faster.

ryan. im looking forward to being the fastest 2.4 out there but i dont know yet. lol and definatly as fast as a 2.0 stage 2 lol cant wait to race one theyll **** there pants.

ryan.

celicacobalt

am i the onyl 2.4 putting down over 200whp right now?

fbaero10

lol 200 whp? whats your 1/4 looking like with those numbers, and hows the turbo any bugs still?

Brandon97Z

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There's the few hahn proto's with 240whp

WhiteSSBalt

Thats exactly what I thought going into the 2.4 crowd.........I chose the 2.4SS b/c the 2.0SS/SC's are everywhere out where I live, and no one out here really has a tuned 2.4 However, good luck on tuning. Its a big run around. After about 200 posts on just asking tuning questions, I think I MIGHT be getting some help soon w/ HP Tuners. 2.0SS/SC's have tuning solutions out the butt........

rlinden86

yeah theres lots of capabilities for the 2.4 i think it can have more things than the 2.0 just cuz its a bigger engine and can produce more power. therfor having racing cams lower compression pistons intake manifold turbo kit and all the other little thingys for extra power im sure that cars engine can make about 400whp. thats swapping everything out.

ryan.

jefferyss

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i currently have an 06 ss non sc and love it death. it eats a lot of cars off the line and through out ! i've gone from wrx's to mustangs and even my buddies sc with stage 2! with my car being auto to boot . . .it hauls. i brought home an 07 sc tonight that im working out a deal with my dealership and this car ******* kicks ass ! i've never had so much quik response and insane torque dumping into second and soaring lol. i took it on to the highway to see what i could do with it and going into 5th it was doing 170 ! i cant do that with my 2.4 auto lol . everyone that pulled up tonight lost! 2 integras, 3 civics,1 grand prix, this car is ******* retarded ! i love my 2.4 but i'm going tdry hump the **** out of the fender before i return it tomorrow lmao . if your coin tossing between sc and non sc . . . go for the sc, you'll enjoy it more ,i just left a puddle talking about lmao

rlinden86

i highly doubt the 07 SC went 170mph. maybe 140 or so. youd have to mod the hell outta the thing to get it to go 170mph. unless you went up to 170kph. cuz ive had my car up to about 205kph. thats about 130mph i think. and mine has full bolt ons and injectors and tune. i like my 2.4 its nicer than the sc cuz theres so many sc's and wait till i turbo it it should be pushin 270whp i think.

ryan.

WhiteSSBalt

a stock '07 SS/SC Cobalt (or any year SS/SC for that matter) will not do 170. Hell, even an HP Tuners tuned Cobalt will not hit 170 probally.

Brandon97Z

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The guy is from canada its in kph

rlinden86

i thought so that he would be kph, theres no way hes running mph 170mph, i got my 2.4 up to 205kph. thats as much as itl do so far. till turbo comes then maybe about 140mph easy.

ryan.

jefferyss

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sorry hah hah hah its in kilometers per hour , didnt even think about that lol , i wonder how many jaws dropped when that was posted , my bad lol

rlinden86

not mine i knew you werent going no 170mph lol. thatd cost like over 10k to do that lol.

ryan.

jefferyss

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10 grand . . . **** that 100 grand baby . . . ferrari lol