well mod for mod the bigger engine will always be on top with power but its the traction thats the elimating factor

 

So I should take the Model T wheels off my dragster...???

 

LOL


take them off the rear and use them on the front

 

In the 2.4SS the pioneer system is standard.

And how could you net smoke the tires in a 2.4??? I smoke my tires all the time, mostly when I don't want too. compare the torque numbers and rpm's, there is no reason the 2.2L should take off faster.

and yeah, motor trend got the 2.4L SS Sedan to 60MPH in 7.1 seconds.

 

I'll clear up a little confusion. The Pioneer system is standard in Canada but optional in the US.


So M/T tested a 2.4L SS? about time somebody did!

 

Yeah, M/T tested a Cobalt 2.4SS Sedan with the 5-speed.

0-60 7.1 seconds
1/4 mile 15.6
.83g's on the skidpad.

Motor trend uses this little road course to time cars on, it was really fast. beat a GS430, and the A3 2.0T

 

WTF? and there is no base price difference?
I guess there was something wrong with the car I test drove, as far as not lighting them up. I tried the L gear too. throttle just seemed mushy. maybe I should come up to canada to buy my cobalt, or maybe even a persuit!......

 

my tires vurn out in any gear d l or i with no problem

 

Note that the 2.4L SS makes 90% of its torque at 2400rpm. It is true that it doesn't really "open up" until 3000-3500+, but it's pretty damn fast below that. The SS is a totally different beast in my opinion. I also think it's the best "tuner" car of the three because you have the largest and most advanced engine.

Does anybody know of an ECU reprogrammer that lets you change your fuel map etc. to let you boost your ponies? My buddy has one for his Mustang that adds like 30hp to it and only cost him $200, and he can revert the program back to stock for when he takes it to the dealer. I'm sure they'll be available sooner or later, just wondering if one was out now.

 

^ I've been looking for something like that for a while...I don't think it will be here anytime soon though. Maybe in a few years.

 

they will come out as more cobalts go forced induction besides the ss/sc

 

I like my 2.4 SS. Alot. The only thing I really don't care for are the seats. It's not that they suck...but you can't really get confortable in the IMO. In my Monte, I can sit back real nice. In my moms Mustang, you can get remotely comfortable, but it sits kinda high for my liking. The lower back support is incredibly uncomfortable. I always find myself leaning forwards.

Having said that, the brakes on all Cobalts suck to my understanding. They pulsate alot. It's kinda annoying, but if it doesn't annoy you...good job. I like the SS 4 wheel discs though. I've always been partial to discs. I love my FE3 suspension. I've never driven an SS s/c, but even the SS n/a's FE3 "sport" suspension is better than my Monte SS's sport suspension. It's basically the same, but the Monte is slightly more giving, due to it being a "touring" car I suppose. But the suspension is very nice. It keeps you planted...unless you take bends at 90.

I have an auto. I would've rahter not. But considering the circumstances, I didn't want to waitfor them to order me in a 5 speed ,then not like it anyway. Plus it's a lease, so I didn't care. The auto almost always is very responsive. When you tap the gas, it goes. It's always in the proper gear IMO.

But yes, it's a very willing engine. I love putting it into 1st, getting up some speed, balancing the gear to a speed, then punching it. It goes. You can certainly drive it pretty fun-like if you so desire. And I like the extra boost from the VVT. My old Honda was before Honda really used VTEC mainstream. Accords got it the next year. But I like the extra boost in the higher RPM's.

Yes, the Pioneer IS optional on the US SS's. The original black one at my dealership was a black SS n/a with everything I wanted but the MP3 and Pioneer. The Pioneer is worth the money IMO. Even if you replace the components, it at least gives you a descent platform, as well as pre-cut tweeter holes.

All together, I think for whatever the extra cash is, it's worth it. But it's still suggested to use premium. After I got the car, I suspected the dealer put regular in it becasue when it got all of that out and was just premium, it was noticible.

My uncle just got a 2006 Cobalt LS, and eventhough it's the sport package and has all the options, I don't care for it. It doesn't get the same idea across IMO.

Represent the SS n/a's.

 

yeah the only gripes i have on my ss is that the seats are weird, the trac control doesnt have an on/off switch, drive by wire sucks imo, the brakes pulsate, and a few other things but its all good i love my car

 

Oh...another problem...but all Cobalts (coupes at least) have this. There's no rear inside dome light. WTF. I keep stuff back there, and at night, I can't see jack. lol.

 

what is the 1/4 mi time for the 2.4l ss coupe auto?

i saw the manual sedan runs 15.6 that would give me a run for my money

my 1st post!

 

I think 15-16 depending on transmission. Anyone able to verify?

 

so high 15's to low 16's in an auto?

 

Yeah someone here got a 15.2 i think 5-speed. W/intake he ran a 15.05. Not sure of the guys name but he did make a post about it.

 

Word on the streets (lol) the auto has a tad more torque initially. But the 5 speed makes up for it in mid to high I suppose. The 0-60 and 1320 in the 5 speed are better. Having that said, I certainly don't have any problem with my auto tranny being reponsive. Plus, I never liked GM manuals.

 

My SS is auto, and it is very responsive and will bark the tires off the line... it is really good up through the gears. its really fun to drive. i am not a huge fan of GM manuals either, but i have never driven the s/c so i don't knowhow that one responds... i just know in the 2.5 i liked the auto over the 5 speed. more practical for me.

 

Don't forget though 5-speed weight less and have less drivetrain loss. That helps alot right there. And i dunno about you guys but i love my getrag. Get a short shifter and your good to go.

 

i cant wait to run at the track this spring to see what i get

 

Exactly. I was very skeptical when I went for a test drive at my dealership with a 2.4 SS auto. I said... "I don't like GM 4 cylinders...so why'd I like one in auto?" But I gave it a go anyway. I was pleasantly surprised. The Cobalt SS auto does a better job of keeping the engine in a usable powerband than my Monte's Hydramatic with the 3.8. In the Monte you have to actually control the gears yourself to not let it bog. Butin either car, when you floor it, they fly. I was surprised by the 2.4. When the VVT kicks in, it's noticible. I have a video my friend took and you can hear the VVT real well. But about the GM manuals. I'm a valet. So I think I am fully authorized to make that judgement. I just never liked the Getrag. Cobalt, Cavalier, Sunfire, Alero, Grand Am, all of them. Aren't they used in some Saabs too? I don't know. I was just so used to the "Honda style" clutch in my Accord and the Getrag is just weird to me. But if you guys like it, that's great! Just not my style.

 

Not sure how an automatic can bog....?

I notice some of you have driven older getrags. Don't compare them to the 5 speed 2.4L

I drove an Alero 2.2L 5 speed it was hard to learn how to drive smoothly. The clutch acts like an on/off switch.

Now a 2.4L 5 speed (Cobalt) is so different you'd swear they are different transmissions. Very easy to drive. Nice progresive clutch take up. And very short shifter throws.

Can't say I can hear the VVT or notice it kick in. (but thenagain I haven't been able to get on it lately cause of the weather--maybe I am just used to it. Pretty mild system we have.

 

at high rpms i can feel a slight boost with the vvt