2.4L = Fake SS?
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Originally Posted by Doc
Do you guys have anything better to whine about...?? I honestly think this is a self imposed title to gain pity.
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ud be sayin the same **** if you owned a 2.4.....we just want some respect...big deal no s/c still pretty quick for what it is.....i think there needs to be a 2.4 forum of its own. and split the two ss's up since we cant even get any respect from fellow coby owners.
edit : this response meant for doc
edit 2: when im drivin through the streets even if i just see a little sedan i still get excited about it, i love cobalts regardless of model
edit : this response meant for doc
edit 2: when im drivin through the streets even if i just see a little sedan i still get excited about it, i love cobalts regardless of model
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Originally Posted by RYCobaltSS
ud be sayin the same **** if you owned a 2.4.....we just want some respect...big deal no s/c still pretty quick for what it is.....i think there needs to be a 2.4 forum of its own. and split the two ss's up since we cant even get any respect from fellow coby owners.
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Originally Posted by StinkBOMB
I've never bad mouthed a 2.4, I'm thrilled the motor is out there. If I ever get tired of my 2.0 I can switch to a motor that has VVT, I've posted numerous times about wanting VVT. The 2.4 has it, I want it. 2.4 owners won't get any respect until they stop complaining so much.
i don't complain, i like my 2.4 just fine.
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Originally Posted by StinkBOMB
2.4 owners won't get any respect until they stop complaining so much.
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Originally Posted by css9450
Maybe the complaining stems from all the SS/SC owners saying "save up and get the SS/SC" every time someone posts they are considering a Cobalt. Take a look - there are about 1,000 posts like that on this forum.
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Originally Posted by StinkBOMB
That's not a bash on your car dude, it's a preference. I bought the SS S/C because the support was already in place and the engine was built pretty good. from the factory I didn't have the resources or time to dedicate to building up a motor and then pay the $$$ for a turbo kit. If you want to bitch, bitch about aftermarket support. Then again, it seems that aftermarket support is just about in place....nothing to complain about.
I don't mean you in particular. Yours was just a convenient post to quote.
I mean, every time someone says "hey I'm new, and am looking at the LS sedan" (or whatever), someone always says "no, get the SC".
Its just like all the years I spent on the Beretta forums. People were always recommending the Quad 4 cars to people who just wanted a nice, automatic, daily driver. Never mind that the last good non-beat-upon Quad Beretta was gone years earlier.
I had a great V6 automatic Beretta, and similarly, I have a great 2.4 Cobalt. Its exactly the car I wanted. No complaints here.
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Originally Posted by css9450
I don't mean you in particular. Yours was just a convenient post to quote.
I mean, every time someone says "hey I'm new, and am looking at the LS sedan" (or whatever), someone always says "no, get the SC".
Its just like all the years I spent on the Beretta forums. People were always recommending the Quad 4 cars to people who just wanted a nice, automatic, daily driver. Never mind that the last good non-beat-upon Quad Beretta was gone years earlier.
I had a great V6 automatic Beretta, and similarly, I have a great 2.4 Cobalt. Its exactly the car I wanted. No complaints here.
I mean, every time someone says "hey I'm new, and am looking at the LS sedan" (or whatever), someone always says "no, get the SC".
Its just like all the years I spent on the Beretta forums. People were always recommending the Quad 4 cars to people who just wanted a nice, automatic, daily driver. Never mind that the last good non-beat-upon Quad Beretta was gone years earlier.
I had a great V6 automatic Beretta, and similarly, I have a great 2.4 Cobalt. Its exactly the car I wanted. No complaints here.
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Originally Posted by joeworkstoohard
i don't complain, i like my 2.4 just fine.
Same here...I haven't complained once about my 2.4...I like mine just fine as well...
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It seems like there are more of the SS/SC owners putting down the 2.4's than anyone else..am I wrong??? People purchase what their pocket books allow them to. Not everyone is going to purchase a SS/SC if they are looking for a Cobalt because that's not what everyone wants. There is no reason to fault someone for their choice of a car because it's something you personally don't like or care for.
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Originally Posted by redSSBalt
It seems like there are more of the SS/SC owners putting down the 2.4's than anyone else..am I wrong??? People purchase what their pocket books allow them to. Not everyone is going to purchase a SS/SC if they are looking for a Cobalt because that's not what everyone wants. There is no reason to fault someone for their choice of a car because it's something you personally don't like or care for.
yeah, i got you. personally, i don't think that the 2.4s get a lot of flak. the only thing that drives me up a wall personally are people that don't know what they're working with. a LOT of dealers don't know anything about these cars, or the SC and spread dis-information. i had to explain to a very nice (looking) young lady the other night that her 2.4 SS was not the same motor as her old 2.4 Z24 quad4. (thank god)
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I dont care what you buy and why you buy it but every company is using labels they shouldnt on cars that dont deserve it. There shouldnt be a SS, SVT, SRT, or Redline on anything that doesnt deserve it. Mercedes and BMW do a great job with ensuring anything with an AMG or M badge does what the badge dictates the car can do. The SS should not be on the 2.4 as much as SVT should of been on the focus and so I'm not biased the redline should not be on the vue. Hell IMO the SS badge shouldnt be on anything with less than 8 cyl, I think the cobalts should be Z20's or something to that effect. Heritage is lost on these new "tuner" cars and the badges dont mean what they used to. These cars are built to satisfy peoples wants that cannot afford or use a "SS" type car but still want to be sporty, and the car companies are happy to slap a badge on a car and take your money.
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Originally Posted by AlphaJaguar5
I dont care what you buy and why you buy it but every company is using labels they shouldnt on cars that dont deserve it. There shouldnt be a SS, SVT, SRT, or Redline on anything that doesnt deserve it. Mercedes and BMW do a great job with ensuring anything with an AMG or M badge does what the badge dictates the car can do. The SS should not be on the 2.4 as much as SVT should of been on the focus and so I'm not biased the redline should not be on the vue. Hell IMO the SS badge shouldnt be on anything with less than 8 cyl, I think the cobalts should be Z20's or something to that effect. Heritage is lost on these new "tuner" cars and the badges dont mean what they used to. These cars are built to satisfy peoples wants that cannot afford or use a "SS" type car but still want to be sporty, and the car companies are happy to slap a badge on a car and take your money.
personally, i feel that these cars better show what the "SS" badge is about than it has meant in a loooooong time. it was, and mostly still is, an image thing. in our cases, there is more power and handling toys to back it up.
personally, i think the least "SS" car with that name i have ever seen is the 94-96 impala. i love impalas, but there was not a regular one, so how could there be an SS? doesn't make sense.
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Originally Posted by Dragonsfire12345
whoever conciders the 2.4SS a fake ss is a heritic and should be hanged lol jk
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Originally Posted by joeworkstoohard
personally, i feel that these cars better show what the "SS" badge is about than it has meant in a loooooong time. it was, and mostly still is, an image thing. in our cases, there is more power and handling toys to back it up.
personally, i think the least "SS" car with that name i have ever seen is the 94-96 impala. i love impalas, but there was not a regular one, so how could there be an SS? doesn't make sense.
personally, i think the least "SS" car with that name i have ever seen is the 94-96 impala. i love impalas, but there was not a regular one, so how could there be an SS? doesn't make sense.
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I really don't think they are badging the cars wrongly either. Take SVT from Ford for instance. SVT stands for Special Vehicle Team. They are a devision of Ford and do things to the cars to make them better performance wise and hadling wise than their base siblings. You obviously aren't going to smoke an SVT Cobra Mustang with an SVT Focus. That's not what the concept is behind SVT.
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I like my 2.4 very much and know I'm not going to beat a SS/SC unless I do some work to mine. If I really wanted a SS/SC I would have bought that instead. I just couldn't see spending the difference in money between the two when you can get a lot more out of a motor for that money instead of just a supercharger.
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Originally Posted by Doc
Do you guys have anything better to whine about...?? I honestly think this is a self imposed title to gain pity.