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Old May 24, 2007 | 10:18 PM
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Cavalier vs Cobalt

My friend has a stock 2002 manual cavalier and he swears that his car will beat my auto cobalt ss/na just because of his manual tranny over my auto. I don't think thats true at all. I guess I'll have to race him to find out. What do you guys think?
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Old May 24, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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ok so 170hp compared to what 140 out of the 02 2.2. It is better for you that you are auto cuz he can screw up shifts. Definately taking the 2.4 over the 2.2
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Old May 24, 2007 | 10:21 PM
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wow....



try this one: 1996 geo prizm vs 2007 lancer...hmmm.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 10:23 PM
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if its a base lancer im going with the prism lol. Ive seen the cavalier take one down hard core. so lancer FTL o n the lancer was an OZ rally 5 speed.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 10:25 PM
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I walked several bolt-on cavaliers when I had my auto 2.4... as soon as I got into the upper RPM range the car pulled really hard.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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2.4 FTW hands down
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Old May 24, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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this race wouldnt be funny
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Old May 24, 2007 | 10:30 PM
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ok so 170hp compared to what 140 out of the 02 2.2. It is better for you that you are auto cuz he can screw up shifts. Definately taking the 2.4 over the 2.2
lol. yeah thats what i said. i kind of figured i couldn't lose to him
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Old May 24, 2007 | 10:33 PM
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i was being sarcastic...ahhh dah?
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Old May 24, 2007 | 10:36 PM
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Out of the hole,

You > Cavy

Top speed

You < Cavy
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Old May 24, 2007 | 11:39 PM
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Race him for slips. Then sell the cavalier for scrap metal.

lol
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Old May 24, 2007 | 11:46 PM
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well he might have the launch, but as soon as he hits third, u will pull on him mad hard. auto launches aren't that great compared to manual, but deff the 2.4 has a higher top speed and will be quicker in higher gears. i have a manual 2.2 n i keep up with my friend who has a manual 2.4 z24. soooo idk, all based on driver.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 12:08 AM
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ive raced Z24's with I/H/E combos with my I/E 2.2 MT and won... twice. one was a convertable. i didnt know they had those. but i never followed Cavy's much.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 05:41 AM
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If it was a base eco 5-speed it'd be a drivers race since they are fairly light compared to our pigs. If he gets a good launch and doesn't miss a shift i wouldn't be surprissed either way.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 05:49 AM
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That depends if you're talking about a 2.2 ecotec or 2.4 L4. I had an 02 Z24 and I was able to bull on the ss 2.4 all the time with a couple bolt ons. My last dyno with it was 177whp. If the balt is stock you're not getting all 173 to the wheels. RPM's the balt got it! So, it would be a good race slow but good
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Old May 25, 2007 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by sneaky
Out of the hole,

You > Cavy

Top speed

You < Cavy
Huh? What do you mean?
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Old May 25, 2007 | 05:59 AM
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You are gonna win, unless he has a good amount of work done. The 2.2 cavys are nice and do have some decent power but, they are a 16 second 1/4 mile car, where as the Cobey 2.4 is a 15 second car.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 06:02 AM
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First of all, it's a 2002...

There were 3 engines available for that year

A 2200 OHV engine, 2.4 Twin Cam (LD9) and the 2.2 ECOTEC (L61), which one is it?

And it might be a closer race than you think depending on the engine he has.

Originally Posted by 1gmfanatik
You are gonna win, unless he has a good amount of work done. The 2.2 cavys are nice and do have some decent power but, they are a 16 second 1/4 mile car, where as the Cobey 2.4 is a 15 second car.
Actually...

2.2 ECOTEC Cavaliers (manual) are good mid 15 second cars. I have many of friends who were stock 1/4 mile wise running 15.3-15.4 as well.

Originally Posted by blackngold20
That depends if you're talking about a 2.2 ecotec or 2.4 L4. I had an 02 Z24 and I was able to bull on the ss 2.4 all the time with a couple bolt ons. My last dyno with it was 177whp. If the balt is stock you're not getting all 173 to the wheels. RPM's the balt got it! So, it would be a good race slow but good
They have similar limiters (it's either 6500 or 6800 RPMs for the j-bodies).

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Old May 25, 2007 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by NJHK
First of all, it's a 2002...

There were 3 engines available for that year

A 2200 OHV engine, 2.4 Twin Cam (LD9) and the 2.2 ECOTEC (L61), which one is it?

And it might be a closer race than you think depending on the engine he has.



Actually...

2.2 ECOTEC Cavaliers (manual) are good mid 15 second cars. I have many of friends who were stock 1/4 mile wise running 15.3-15.4 as well.



They have similar limiters (it's either 6500 or 6800 RPMs for the j-bodies).

I'm sorry to say this, but I will have to doubt that a 2.2 Cavy will pull a 15.3-15.4 out the box with no mods. The late 90's Cavy's with the 2.4 Twin Cam's were besting 15.9's. Not to mention, the 2.4 is a very strong motor, but I don't believe ever hearing that an 02 Cavy with a 2.4 was pulling high 14's, which it should if the 2.2 was running mid to low 15's..Show me some proof that them cars where stock and I will retract my previous statement.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by NJHK
First of all, it's a 2002...

There were 3 engines available for that year

A 2200 OHV engine, 2.4 Twin Cam (LD9) and the 2.2 ECOTEC (L61), which one is it?

And it might be a closer race than you think depending on the engine he has.



Actually...

2.2 ECOTEC Cavaliers (manual) are good mid 15 second cars. I have many of friends who were stock 1/4 mile wise running 15.3-15.4 as well.



They have similar limiters (it's either 6500 or 6800 RPMs for the j-bodies).
the 02 2.4L is 5800-6200 before it started to cut
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Old May 25, 2007 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by SlateFox
ive raced Z24's with I/H/E combos with my I/E 2.2 MT and won... twice. one was a convertable. i didnt know they had those. but i never followed Cavy's much.
I can believe that you beat a vert cavy, but if you raced an i/h/e eco cavy he would win. Think about it, the same power, but like 300 lbs less weight.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by NJHK
There were 3 engines available for that year

A 2200 OHV engine
Betcha its a 2200.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 09:31 AM
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my last car was a 2004 cavi, base 5 speed, 2.2 ecotec, with I/E/H and it wouldnt come close to our STOCK 2.4 auto sedan, i ran 15.7-15.9 in the cavi with all mods, and i have driven manuals since i learned how to drive. we raced them the night we got our cobalt, and i got owned, plus her old car was a 2002 2.2 ecotec auto cavi that we traded for the balt, it wasnt even close to my cavi. COBALT FTW. Just take off in L and shift to I
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Old May 25, 2007 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by NJHK
Huh? What do you mean?
The SS will have good low end but since it's an auto and the Cavy is a stick the Cavy will have better gearing and the upper hand in the high MPH.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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My stock 02 Z24 2.4 LD9 5speed went 15.2 @92 mph. It was a 50 degree's night at 918ft above sea level. All it had was a catback and a K&N . It might be closer than you would think .
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