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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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Cosmo Short throw shifter

Does anyone on here have this shifter?
If you do, how much of a reduction does there seem to be between gears? How much shorter is it physically? Did you have any problems installing it? And how is it for reliability, have you had any problems with it?
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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The Cosmo looks like 00-05 Cavalier Ebay shifters. The cavalier shifter fits and is only $40 shipped.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by agentsmith23
Does anyone on here have this shifter?
If you do, how much of a reduction does there seem to be between gears? How much shorter is it physically? Did you have any problems installing it? And how is it for reliability, have you had any problems with it?
Can't say that I've ever heard of it. I have the TWM and its awesome.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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i have the cosmo(p clear) shifter and it works fine, ive had it on for about 10k miles and no issues at all. the only complaint i have is the shifter knob is an odd thread and im having trouble finding a new shift knob. the knob that comes with it is chrome and gets f'in hot in the summer sun.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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i have the cosmo(p clear) shifter and it works fine, ive had it on for about 10k miles and no issues at all. the only complaint i have is the shifter knob is an odd thread and im having trouble finding a new shift knob. the knob that comes with it is chrome and gets f'in hot in the summer sun.
Try this one http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RAZO-...spagenameZWDVW it also comes it black.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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Try this one http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RAZO-...spagenameZWDVW it also comes it black.
ive had bad luck with the universal shift knobs, ill only put one on that is threaded.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bluebaltjim
ive had bad luck with the universal shift knobs, ill only put one on that is threaded.
I've also had bad luck with universal knobs. That one comes with inserts so I think the inserts are threaded. I'ld like a new knob also. I think my shifter is the same as the Casmo, but I'm not sure. my threads are 12mmx1.25 or 1.5. I can't remember which.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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I have read on a few other posts that some of the e-bay shifters aren't true sts. Those of you who have the ebay shifters, did you actually notice an actual shorter throw between gears?
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 08:37 PM
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https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/drivetrain-79/will-cosmo-racing-cavalier-short-shifter-fit-2-2-2-4-a-69028/
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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Yes it's not super short but shorter. here is my tread https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=69028

how are you liken' yours REIGN?

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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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Yes it's not super short but shorter. here is my tread https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=69028

how are you liken' yours REIGN?
its awesome so far!!!

I already posted a link
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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That guy should give me a commission
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Black07LS
I've also had bad luck with universal knobs. That one comes with inserts so I think the inserts are threaded. I'ld like a new knob also. I think my shifter is the same as the Casmo, but I'm not sure. my threads are 12mmx1.25 or 1.5. I can't remember which.
a couple of days ago i ordered a resin(soft plastic) shift knob and im gonna try to drill and tap it to fit on the shifter, if it works out well ill let yall know.

Originally Posted by agentsmith23
I have read on a few other posts that some of the e-bay shifters aren't true sts. Those of you who have the ebay shifters, did you actually notice an actual shorter throw between gears?
the most important thing ive noticed is when someone is riding shotgun and you put it in 5th gear you dont have to move their leg because the shifter is stuck out too far.

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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bluebaltjim
a couple of days ago i ordered a resin(soft plastic) shift knob and im gonna try to drill and tap it to fit on the shifter, if it works out well ill let yall know.
Is it the Razo? Can you post a link? I found out the Razo has a plastic insert and your threads cut into it. Have you tried this type?
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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here's a link to the shift knob i ordered. got it today and by the feel of the material i should be able to drill and tap it, ill give it a try this weekend.

http://cgi.ebay.com/MITSUBISHI-LANCE...QQcmdZViewItem
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bluebaltjim
here's a link to the shift knob i ordered. got it today and by the feel of the material i should be able to drill and tap it, ill give it a try this weekend.

http://cgi.ebay.com/MITSUBISHI-LANCE...QQcmdZViewItem
I like it. what thread size are you tapping it for? What size is it now?
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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im not sure what the thread is now i haven't checked yet. im gonna take my knob that came with the shifter into home depot and find the exact thread then drill and tap it. i have a complete set of taps standard and metric. ill let ya know when i finish and how it turns out.
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 10:08 PM
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the cosmo saturn one doesn't have reverse lockout ... i'm gonna try it out soon once i get my birthday money
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 04:26 PM
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Ebay Cavalier one that I have came with RLO, but you can leave it off if you like. I just used it to hold up my shifter boot. The RLO is only held on by 1 pin (5sec. to remove). With lock out removed it looks just like Cosmo Ion shifter.

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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 02:18 AM
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yup they're probably very similar however the ebay one isn't a cosmo from what i understand nor is the pc clear one... and with something that is such an easy fix to remove.. i don't see the point in paying more then 60$ at most for a sts....
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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yup they're probably very similar however the ebay one isn't a cosmo from what i understand nor is the pc clear one... and with something that is such an easy fix to remove.. i don't see the point in paying more then 60$ at most for a sts....
I can't tell from your post, but if you want a cheaper shifter this is the one i have http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/00-05...spagenameZWDVW
and some more

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/00-05-CHEVY-CAVALIER-SUNFIRE-RACING-SHORT-SHIFTER-01-02_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33736QQihZ007QQitemZ 170148285975QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Caval...spagenameZWDVW

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/00-05-CHEVY-CAVALIER-SUNFIRE-SHORT-SHIFTER-KNOB-BOOT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33736QQihZ005QQite mZ150159744160QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

and Cosmo
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Short...spagenameZWDVW
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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they're very similar however from what i've seen with other peoples cars.. cosmo makes decent stuff.. and it's still cheaper then a big name brand.. the cosmo one will have directions for my car haha...

mostly i was just saying that paying for a B&M or TWM or HURST is rediculous... there are much better solutions such as the ones you've shown... it's 60$ for the cosmo shifter shipped according to their site... and it's about 40 for the EBAY ones... so there's not much difference in price but it's still 1/2 of a name brand... i dunno I'm debating back and forth between the cosmo and a knock off

+ rep to you for posting all those options for peoples though
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 03:58 PM
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this will help if you go with the Ebay shifter Blue http://www.twmperformance.com/manual..._%20Manual.pdf
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 06:31 PM
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well i finally got around to fitting a different knob onto the cosmo shifter. it turns out the thread pattern is m12-1.25 which is like a specialty thread size. i lucked out and found a tap at pepboys(home depot, lowes, grainger,northern tool all didn't have that size). here's some pics of what was needed to tap new threads in the ebay resin shifter.

a drill capable of chucking a 1/2" bit, 1/2" bit, 10.5mm bit(it came with the tap), a 12mm-1.25tap


here's a pic of before, and that damn shift knob gets hot


here's a pic of after, i counter sunk the threads with a 1/2" bit so the knob could screw down further.
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 06:42 PM
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wow man great post up!
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