Coba

This car has being so good to me the last four years.


Its still clean inside and out, as I bought it as a 1 owner(im a detailer).


The car has just hit 94,000 miles, and I still love this stupid thing surprisingly..


Problems...


Needs timing chain bad


All the brakes need replaced


Bad front wheel bearings


Needs poly bushings


Exhaust manifold leaks into the cabin so bad I get headaches.. (thanks zzp, they offered to FIX my mid length header for $250 plus a three hour drive. no thanks...)




The great thing about the car is I already own it, its dead reliable, its not actually slow for a NA 4 pot (sure as hell aint fast), and at the end of the day, its fun to drive.


This header leak is killing me, so I want to fix it.


My options are new header $360, fix header $???, K04 kit from zzp $2200, used turbo kit $????


I hate buying the same thing twice this header should have lasted more than 3 years...


So im thinking turbo kit to fix the issue.


Im just worried that a k04 will spool instantly, die early(I like reving to 7k), hurt my trans, and generally drive like **** with the higher compression and stroke of the 2.4...


The cars only worth 5k maybe and its really clean... Almost not worth getting rid of at all.


Im so fed up with this exhaust smell otherwise I would let sleeping dogs lie, so to speak..


I raced a 2017 challenger v6 moments ago who was driving like an ass. He barely put 2.5 cars on me with a 4th gear pull 115+.
He got really butthurt when I told him it was NA and made only 187whp.
I love the feeling of hurting egos, which is why I love this car. don't care much what happens, and it usually looks best for the under dog anyway.


Was also thinking E85, 60's, cams, balance shaft delete, and long tubes, would go a long way. 200whp easy. At the end of the day it would be impressive but still no where near fast.


Any opinions, new ideas, or knowledgeable insight is welcome as always.


Used k04? Used s252-256? idk


I like linear power, but pretty sure im making it into a daily/track toy(mid ohio)


95% sure I WILL be installing a steering quickener for better on center steering while cornering. Unless I move on..


Cheers

Slowbalt2000

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m62 done

Snail_SS

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That ^

Slowbalt2000

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the sc setup is a lot less of a headache

Coba

Honestly, I had not even once considered using an m62.


But it seems so obvious now..


The thing with superchargers that always bothered me was that it is belt driven horsepower, and the iat's associated with having the supercharger literally on the intake manifold transferring heat from the engine.


I looked at the zzp kit and it seems to be about $1500. But from what iv picked up, don't I need special tools for the belts and what not?


I like to do everything myself.


I wonder what kind of power a 2.4 would put down to the wheels with the zzp provided 3.1 pulley, 93oct, catless downpipe.


I really want at least 250 wheel to make spending 2k worth it.. Don't feel too comfortable with used sc kits. But im not opposed


This may be the route I was looking for though.


Oh, I also just ordered an N2mB wot box today!
Trying to get my 60ft down this year.

slapbetcommissioner

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M62 is definitely a bargain way to go. Won't fix your header leak but the money you save could get you s long tube!

I love that you can honestly say a turbo kit could fix your engine issues. The 1 time it might actually be true!

Slowbalt2000

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You can run probably down to a 2.8 pulley safely. That would definitely put you in the 250whp range.

Coba

Haha, that is pretty ironic isn't it?


The long tubes look really nice! Probably better quality than the mid length I have..




Im thinking ill run e85 so I can get more timing out of this setup, its everywhere around here anyway.


So im probably going to end up ordering the long tubes this weekend.


In the future I want to run a 3" exhaust so ill order the header in 3", I just don't know how ill get it to work with the 2.5" exhaust in the mean time.


So im thinking zzp kit with 80's upgrade(E85), catless longtubes, 3" catback, and 2.8 pully(maybe 2.7 on e85??).


Should I be worried about stock internals with the supercharger?


Thought I may have seen someone say before its not necessary as much with the sc vs turbo??


Thanks for the help guys!

Slowbalt2000

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you should be pretty much fine with a m62 but anything less than a 2.8 is diminishing returns IMO. it would likely handle whatever you wanted. I would recommend the ottp header if you have the money. Also there is a really cheap option on ebay, just needs an upgraded flex really.

Coba

Damn it, now im drooling over that ottp header!


I have it specd with 2" primaries 3.5" dp, 3" flange and its $715. That's a bit too rich for my blood.


Would the 2" primaries and 3.5" downpipe be overkill in your opinion? Sometimes the smaller piping velocity is beneficial right?


With 2" primaries, 3"dp, and 3" flange its $625. I hope this would last the life of the car.


I still have to buy a 3" catback to go with it as well.

Coba

Thanks for all the help man


I ordered the OTTP long tubes, and a zzp 3" catback.


1.875" primaries, and 3" downpipe.


Going to be a few months or maybe next season till I get the sc kit going. as I have too may hobbies and am backed up for free cash.


I bought a new 2015 wr450 and converted it to street legal in November and just order titamium spoked custom colored supermotard wheels for it!


So im hurting for extra cash.


I have too many hobbies I love.


Thanks again bro

Slowbalt2000

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Yeah i was gonna say you dont need the big boy header. That baby should last you a long time.

chevygirl2006

M62 is the way to go if you're looking for cheap decent power. But you don't need 3 inch exhaust. That's way overkill for n/a. Loss of power. Even for supercharged m62 cars it's not needed. It's been proven that the 2.25 and 2.5 makes more power. 3 isn't needed until you're either tvs or turbo. My 2.4 has been on e85 and a 2.7 pulley for just over a year now. And it's automatic. I dynod 271whp with the zzp 2.5 catless downpipe, midlength header, stock 2.25 exhaust and 2.5" k&n intake. On that set up with drag radials I went 12.8 at the track. I only spent $800 for the sc kit and 350 for the tune. I should be around 300whp now since I put on the 2.5 zzp catback, 3" intake and ls4 throttle body.

Cobalt_noob

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