So, im bored its 8am. I dont know why im awake. but that doesnt matter.

What all would you like to do to your car? (Within Reason). Personaly with the opening of my shop near, hopefuly before 2007 is over, i will:

Turbocharged 2.4L SS 4Dr, Lambo Doors on all 4 doors, air ride suspension, NOS, full custom exhaust, custom intake & headers. new cams & whatever other internals are avail.

going for a pure blue/black interior. new sound system. & remote start.

was thinkin of getting a custom Pearlescent paint too, but i dont know.

What do you guys think?

 

Go with what you feel is right, post pics up when your done, I'm sure it will be rockin.

Here's my plans, Probably in this order

Painted calipers.
HP tune
darker window tint
AEM or Injen CAI
Catback exhaust
new injectors

then possibly...depending on money and how much my girlfriend wants to kill me at that point
Turbocharger

 

i definately will. with the coming of the new shop is also bringing me a company truck. which will allow me to tear down the car and do what i want.

 

I would personally go with a Zex or a Nitrous Express N20 kit for the nitrous, I've heard nothing but good stories about those brands. The header doesn't have to be custom, they make Ecotec turbo headers that will fit the 2.4L.

Check my sig for my car domain, I have all my future mods on there. I just ordered the B&m shift plus so I'll be geting that soon.

 

Soon:
hahn turbo kit stage 2 w/ dyno tuning
17 inch konig unknown rims (19 pounds compared to stock 24 pounds)
rk sport carbon hood (painted on top)
eibach pro kit springs
2nd tranny cooler if neccesary after turbo
progress rear sway bar
Eventually:
strengthend tranny
strengthend internals
progressive boost controller
two tone paint job (red/black)
carbon trunk
engine jewlery
roll cage w/ racing harness
powder coated black calipers
alot more than i have time to list lol

 

just outta curiousity. If you do it in that order, why would you tune the car, before you put on all the perfromance stuff?

 

Oops left out a second tune at the end.
I put in a tune up front because my car would benefit from it, and at that point I may run out of money and give up on the rest.
REALITY CHECK FTW!!!

 

somebody better say heads/cams, some of you should rep the n/a motors...why buy a 2.4 if you are gonna go boosted? n/a is oh so much cooler.

 

im opening up my shop, and one of which will be doing custom products. hence the "custom headers".

just one more thing to make my car different than yours.

 

header, downpipe, 3inch exhaust, larger fuel injectors (size unknown for now), hahn turbo kit with all of its stages, steel intake manifold, injen or aem cai, cam (unknown for now), westers tune, nos, and a suspension setup that i cant decide on. reinforced tranny and engine compartment will come down the line. more to performance im sure in the future but im not getting into the appearance part of it. if anyone has a couple of grand lying around, please donate to the "Support Cipher117!" foundation. we accept cash, credit, checks, jewelry, alcohol, girlfriends, wives, ect. ect.

 

reinforced engine compartment? are you sure you know enough about what you are planning on doing? you will throw a piston to the moon with nitrous and the highest stage hahn kit. and if you are gonna go turbo you aren't gonna want a canned tune from westers or something like that you NEED a dyno tune for it to be safe. i think you just threw a bunch of mods together and called it a plan...

 

well think again my man, i didnt... when i said "reinforced engine compartment" i was talking about things like a strut bar, engine damper, ect. since there would be a lot of power involved and sticking my head in the sand thinking that it isnt going to become a factor isnt going to help. i figured that getting a turbo charger would mean that a dyno to tune it, along with the rest of the car, would be a given. i know exactly which header, downpipe, exhaust, and intake manifold that i want but i cant decide whether i want an aem or ingen cai. im undecided about the camshaft but that will pass in time. as for the fuel injectors, like i said, i dont know what size i want because i havent done enough research on it. i mentioned a westers tune because of people saying how much better their cars ran with no mods but was unaware that it wouldnt work with a turbo charger. nos would have been the last thing i got because of all the heat that it would produce with the amount heat already being produced. if i did get nos, which you are saying is a bad thing with my "plan", i would have gotten a wet injection and extra cooling systems, or something along that line, to cool the engine down to keep it from blowing me to "uranus", haha. heat and stress is what i think about the most when it comes to power gains for my car and i accept criticisim like a good little boy. measure twice and cut once is an understatement to me seeing how i dont have money lying around to make mistake after mistake.

 

well power creates stress no matter how much you cool the IAT's, so you can still easily blow with nitrous and a turbo no matter how much cooling you do. i dono what kind of intake manifold you are looking at, but it is gonna have to be a turbo manifold if you plan on going turbo....i didn't mean to offend you, it just seems like alot of your planned mods contradict eachother or are just too much for the stock short block.

 

Correct.... you don't have to worry just about IATs.

"Turbo manifold" for the intake?? Explain. The stock manifold is composite, but can hold its own with a turbo system. Unless you're talking about adapting an LSJ intake manifold to run a water-air intercooling system.... or a manifold to allow port fueling for a piggyback... which neither are probably the case since he's going with a Hahn kit that includes a FMIC and tuning for the stock PCM (no extra injectors needed).

Now if you meant exhaust manifold, you'd be correct... but the Hahn kit will probably come with one (I haven't really looked into what they include).

 

its cool man and i understand where you're coming from. there's a lot of work involved as well as good decisions and calculations. im looking at hahn's intake manifold to fit the job for the turbo charger. on the nitrous and short block part , you do prove a point. its the least important mod to me compared to all the rest so i wont worry about it. and like i said, if anyone thinks there's a serious issue with my future setup im open to criticisim

 

woops totally confused intake manifold with exhaust manifold...that was a pretty damned embarassing mistake

 

Nah... I kinda figured you meant exhaust. Brain fart.

 

I plan on putting a lift kit on mine, and getting a sweet purple paintjob with pink flames

 

awww heeeellllzzz yaaaaa

get charlie painted on the side http://www.caranddriver.com/shortroa...5gt-specb.html

LOL THAT IS THE FUNNIEST ******* THING EVER

 

Ingen intake, ported throttle body, Cobalt addiction header, 2 1/2 down pipe with high flow cat and flex pipe, and a 3 inch exhaust. ported and polised head with over sized valves and valve springs, a nice set of cams and a tune. should be good for low 14's high 13's

 

Hm... I don't know if I want to stay N/A or not.. No idea for me!

 

i dono about that, but mid 14's for sure.

i would wait to see what mike gains from the heads and cams before you dedicate to it tho...as of now it seems like he got some good gains, but this kind of thing can surprise you with it's gains and may not be for everyone. for example-
we expected to see moderate gains from heads/cams on the 4.0. well there is one guy now that has a procharger and heads/cams with over 400rwhp, but the only guy n/a with just the p&p heads(no cams) got in a big situation with the company over contract breich or something and wasn't allowed to release the dyno numbers, but he confirmed that it was well over 20rwhp and the torque was pretty much FLAT from the very low rpm's on. that was JUST with a port and polish and the gains were on a mustang dyno that has been known to be 10-15% low, so conservatively on a dynojet he may have seen 20-25rwhp and an awesome torque increase with just the heads...add another good 10rwhp or more from cams/springs and such(plus he is an automatic), and you got yourself maybe 40rwhp with a good tune and all of it together. now these may not be totally accurate because he was not allowed to release the dyno #'s, but they are likely close to accurate, and none of us expected that much as our stock heads already flow pretty damn well.

for all of you- id say wait until we see absolute results from g5mike because they may be totally different than what you expect. You may want to go turbo just to make like 250whp, when with heads/cams and supporting work, you may be able to get close to that....who knows. of course it is up to you guys, but just wait...nobody seems to like my advice on the intakes for the 2.2 guys, i tell them to wait until tuning is out to buy a cai, as they will be able to get wider piping straight through when tuning is available and get much better gains.

so again, WAIT before you do big time mods.

 

the only reason I think that that would put me in the low 14's high 13's is that there is a 2.2 cavy that broke into the 13's with just those mods.
Here's his post on Ecotec forum

 

not on the juice, or slicks or anything like that? any weight reduction? if not that is very impressive.

 

Well he had drag radial's
Here's his post on Ecotec forum