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Black07SS 11-09-2007 01:54 AM

Ingalls.
 
Im highly considering this. sounds like a cheap and easy mod. I have a few questions though before ordering (dont bother vendors...i buy all my parts through my dealer as a middleman, 17 year olds dont have credit cards)

1. Does this work with a stock air box? if not, is there any way to mod with the stock air box (its nearly winter so i would be foolish to install CAI at this moment)

2. Is it worth my money?

3. Does it actually improve acceleration as some have said? how so? does it make burnouts impossible?

4. Any supporting mods needed/suggested?

thanks all
-kevin

Raven SS 11-09-2007 01:55 AM

gonna help u out before everyone flames u...

use the search button

Black07SS 11-09-2007 01:59 AM

i have tried but all the answers are so vague and skewed about. i just want solid answers to the questions im asking. no need to flame.

thekingsSS 11-09-2007 11:19 AM

1. No, factory airbox is in the way
2. Yes, definitely. If you want a way to help with wheel hop and dont want to use bushings, this is a great piece
3. Cant tell if it improves acceleration, but it definitely helps to get more power to the wheels during acceleration. I feel that on the 2.4s if you want the best improvement in acceleration you would need new tranny mounts, cause our tranny moves a lot during hard shifts (manual). You can still burnout
4. Lower it. Lowering this car is amazing, looks and feels so much better. Better tires will help too

Black07SS 11-09-2007 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by thekingsSS (Post 1651450)
1. No, factory airbox is in the way
2. Yes, definitely. If you want a way to help with wheel hop and dont want to use bushings, this is a great piece
3. Cant tell if it improves acceleration, but it definitely helps to get more power to the wheels during acceleration. I feel that on the 2.4s if you want the best improvement in acceleration you would need new tranny mounts, cause our tranny moves a lot during hard shifts (manual). You can still burnout
4. Lower it. Lowering this car is amazing, looks and feels so much better. Better tires will help too

thank you. this aswell as the new K&N system for the 2.4s will be ordered this month, unfortunately they wont go on til spring.

Evil C 11-09-2007 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by thekingsSS (Post 1651450)
1. No, factory airbox is in the way
2. Yes, definitely. If you want a way to help with wheel hop and dont want to use bushings, this is a great piece
3. Cant tell if it improves acceleration, but it definitely helps to get more power to the wheels during acceleration. I feel that on the 2.4s if you want the best improvement in acceleration you would need new tranny mounts, cause our tranny moves a lot during hard shifts (manual). You can still burnout
4. Lower it. Lowering this car is amazing, looks and feels so much better. Better tires will help too

Since when can we do a burn out?

Black07SS 11-09-2007 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Evil C (Post 1651813)
Since when can we do a burn out?

do you have a 2.4? mine can smoke the tires no problem. even with bfg winter tires on.

steddy2112 11-09-2007 02:02 PM

I can burn mine through second if I want....

bgbearcatfan 11-09-2007 02:03 PM

i can burn mine through 5th... lol

RuSSo-29 11-09-2007 02:03 PM

I would it be bad to get a CAI in the winter??? Thats just crazy! Put that shit on now, and feel the HP/MPG go up.

D4u2s0t 11-09-2007 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by bgbearcatfan (Post 1651901)
i can burn mine through 5th... lol

then it's time for new tires :lol:

bgbearcatfan 11-09-2007 02:06 PM

lol exactly

actually its because i have sooo much power! all this horsepower and torque omg!

TurboTechRacing 11-09-2007 02:32 PM

Ingalls will fit on the 2.4L IF you have an aftermarket intake like Injen.

You SHOULD get the Turbo Tech Racing or Prothane transmission inserts also and install at the same time.

Also you might want to consider the Turbo Tech Racing Solid upper engine mount, instead of the Ingalls. They can be found at www.TurboTechRacing.com

Renesis 11-09-2007 02:41 PM

so basically on a 2.4 if you want to keep the stock air box you're screwed when it comes to limiting wheel hop? :(

thekingsSS 11-09-2007 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by Renesis (Post 1652031)
so basically on a 2.4 if you want to keep the stock air box you're screwed when it comes to limiting wheel hop? :(

Not necessarily, you can get engine and tranny mounts. They are supposed to help


Originally Posted by Evil C (Post 1651813)
Since when can we do a burn out?

Seriously? Burnouts are pretty easy to do in this car

Renesis 11-09-2007 03:05 PM

well the Turbo Tech Racing Solid upper engine mount requires a special intake too

as for tranny mounts, I'm not sure I want to have to install that

thekingsSS 11-09-2007 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by Renesis (Post 1652090)
well the Turbo Tech Racing Solid upper engine mount requires a special intake too

as for tranny mounts, I'm not sure I want to have to install that

Word, I didnt know that the upper engine mount required a new intake. And I feel you on the tranny mounts...... Guess my advice wasnt necessary :lol:

JimHarr18 11-09-2007 03:13 PM

engine and tranny mounts seem to work better at dealing with wheelhop than the ingalls td. i have the ingalls and i like it, works pretty well for me so i'm not that interested at the moment in mounts. i've heard the vibrations are worse with mounts vs the ingalls td.

while i havn't noticed better acceleration with my td, i've noticed my wheels will spin more than before, before i'd just get bad wheel hop. also shifts feel a lot smoother than before, which is a plus too. i paid $132 (including $2 shipping) in a group buy and i feel it was money well spent.

bgbearcatfan 11-09-2007 03:14 PM

if you wanna do a burnout, put in neautral, rev up to like 5k then slam it into drive :-)

an0malous 11-09-2007 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by bgbearcatfan (Post 1652109)
if you wanna blow your tranny, put in neautral, rev up to like 5k then slam it into drive :-)

fixed..:D

bgbearcatfan 11-09-2007 03:17 PM

lol yah basically.. seriously don't do that haha

BULLETSSMOKE 11-10-2007 02:41 PM

It's weird. Ever since I upgraded to better tires and the ZZP midlength header/dp 2.5" I haven't got wheel hop in a long time. As for modding the stock intake, can you just take it out and add some piping from where it would normally stop and throw on a filter and aim it to the bottom of the engine compartment like a CAI?

2WILD4U 11-10-2007 02:54 PM

i can burn out with my auto. put in L and brake torque it and bam you left a skid mark.

Viper33884 11-10-2007 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by TurboTechRacing (Post 1652005)
Ingalls will fit on the 2.4L IF you have an aftermarket intake like Injen.

You SHOULD get the Turbo Tech Racing or Prothane transmission inserts also and install at the same time.

Also you might want to consider the Turbo Tech Racing Solid upper engine mount, instead of the Ingalls. They can be found at www.TurboTechRacing.com

The mounts are my next mod....:cssNET:

WhiteSSBalt 11-10-2007 09:26 PM

I got a good pic of the Ingalls installed on my 2.4 with an AEM CAI if anyone is interested.


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