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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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gees i was comin home from the mall today and there was this black honda the type that looks like a round something i dont know what it was. but the damn thing was burning rich he had a massive turbo on it. he was smoking up the tires and i ran him for a second and gave up. i got him off the line alittle but gees and i knew the kid he was alot younger than me. i think his mommy and daddy bought that car for him lol. i cant wait till i get my turbo then will see whos king of the road. it sounded so bad too stupid ricers. . the dude couldnt drive either. anywhos the point is. i tried eggin him on so he could crash or get pulled over. i dont need to get pulled over so i didnt attempt to race him.

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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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so you got your **** rocked by a well built honda, so he is a ricer? Logic at work.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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when u ghetto rig ur honda with a turbo and don't care as to how its running yeah ur a ricer, i don't think a "well built" engine would be burning rich
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 03:13 PM
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when u ghetto rig ur honda with a turbo and don't care as to how its running yeah ur a ricer, i don't think a "well built" engine would be burning rich
you know what running rich means? and how do you know it was running rich? Was there black smoke coming out of the exhaust? Do you know if it was catless? who said the turbo was ghetto rigged?
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 03:14 PM
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Its running rich, which we still don't know for sure, so you assuming he doesn't take care how its running? Your right if you don't have the a/f spot on, or have the tuning complete its not well built and they are a ricer.....
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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I seriously scratch my head for a few minutes after I read anything you post.

Let me get this straight so we're on the same page...
1) You automatically assume the kid's parents bought him the car.
2) You use ricer hypotheticals ("when I get my turbo...").
3) You tried to egg this kid on so he could "crash or get pulled over".
4) You converted your 1/8 mile time to a 1/4 mile time using some ricetastic chart.
5) You have underglow.
...yet this kid was a ricer? Haha. I needed a good laugh.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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he said in his original post that it was burning rich, i interpreted that as yes smoke coming out of the exhaust which would mean shitty or no tuning which = GHETTO RIGGED. even if it is bolted up nice and perfect the kid is an idiot for letting his car run like that.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ironkoijak
he said in his original post that it was burning rich, i interpreted that as yes smoke coming out of the exhaust which would mean shitty or no tuning which = GHETTO RIGGED. even if it is bolted up nice and perfect the kid is an idiot for letting his car run like that.
running rich is much better than running lean. I doubt you know what either one means judging by your responses, but lots of well modded cars run rich. some people tune rich on purpose. not = ghetto rigged. you = no idea what you are tlaking about.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ironkoijak
he said in his original post that it was burning rich, i interpreted that as yes smoke coming out of the exhaust which would mean shitty or no tuning which = GHETTO RIGGED. even if it is bolted up nice and perfect the kid is an idiot for letting his car run like that.
I know plenty of cars undergoing extensive projects that require a lot of tuning. When first done... they run on the street with rough tunes that need to be refined over time. If I'm running a rough tune on my car... you can bet your ass that I'll be running richer rather than leaner. Just because the tune isn't dialed in yet doesn't mean that the entire project is "ghetto rigged".
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 03:34 PM
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i guess this is a ghetto rigged stang? http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...4100b23130.htm
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ironkoijak
he said in his original post that it was burning rich, i interpreted that as yes smoke coming out of the exhaust which would mean shitty or no tuning which = GHETTO RIGGED. even if it is bolted up nice and perfect the kid is an idiot for letting his car run like that.
So you took the phrase "he was running rich" assumed it had smoke coming out of the exhaust, then assumed he had no/little tuning and then assumed that it was ghetto rigged. You my friend have made an ass out of your self more then once all in one post, congrats
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by PpAzZ1101
I seriously scratch my head for a few minutes after I read anything you post.

Let me get this straight so we're on the same page...
1) You automatically assume the kid's parents bought him the car.
2) You use ricer hypotheticals ("when I get my turbo...").
3) You tried to egg this kid on so he could "crash or get pulled over".
4) You converted your 1/8 mile time to a 1/4 mile time using some ricetastic chart.
5) You have underglow.
...yet this kid was a ricer? Haha. I needed a good laugh.
People need to stop posting retarded threads on here...

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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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haha i guess except the phrase was not 'running rich' it was "burning rich' which you all seem to be ignoring, and yes i assumed it was smoking because of the word burning, as well as you guys are assuming the car was running fine and the way it was on purpose. were any of us there besides the op? NO so don't tell me i made an ass out of myself because we've interpreted it differently..
i havn't made an ass out of myself, you guys are just showing how you think you are the only ones that can be right. i never said i was right, all i am doing is defending my interpretation of his post.
As far as the mustang goes... i think a person with a mustang would be taking a little more care and have a bitmore knowledge of it then some really young kid with a civic. But what do i know, im not forced induction so i must not know ****
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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Im sorry man.
but you sound like a ricer 10x more than the guy in that honda.

stop making excuses. you got rocked.

Hoping he crashed? wow. how old are you?
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ironkoijak
haha i guess except the phrase was not 'running rich' it was "burning rich' which you all seem to be ignoring, and yes i assumed it was smoking because of the word burning

So you assumed the car was on fire?

Burning=process of the air and fuel mixture igniting


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as well as you guys are assuming the car was running fine and the way it was on purpose.
Show me were someone said the Honda was running fine. All we tried to say is just cause its rich doesn't mean its ricer/ghetto riged like you assumed it was
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 04:26 PM
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lol, this is great. I would add on, but it seems everyones already said what I would've said.

But I will add, b/c only one person has mentioned this, that you can't call someone a "ricer" if you are rocking street glow. C'mon, didn't you see FATF???

Sorry man, but making dumb assumptions about a car that beat you and a guy driving it whom of which you don't know..........umm.....

owned.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ironkoijak
haha i guess except the phrase was not 'running rich' it was "burning rich' which you all seem to be ignoring, and yes i assumed it was smoking because of the word burning, as well as you guys are assuming the car was running fine and the way it was on purpose. were any of us there besides the op? NO so don't tell me i made an ass out of myself because we've interpreted it differently..
i havn't made an ass out of myself, you guys are just showing how you think you are the only ones that can be right. i never said i was right, all i am doing is defending my interpretation of his post.
As far as the mustang goes... i think a person with a mustang would be taking a little more care and have a bitmore knowledge of it then some really young kid with a civic. But what do i know, im not forced induction so i must not know ****
explain to me what happens in the combustion chamebr and what the difference between "burning" rich and running rich is....

hint:
THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE.

You must not know **** because well...you don't know ****, it's as simple as that. I dont have forced induction, but i have a little bit of knowledge on the subject, and you sir do not. Let's look at the facts here

-Turbo civic
-big turbo
-running rich
-spinning the tires
-this guy thinks the parents payed for it

Well from these facts, i can not conclude that this car is ghetto rigged, no matter how i look at it, i don't know how you did. The fact that this guy said he thinks the kids parents payed for it would lead me to beleive it is probably in great condition and pretty nice.

None of us drew idiotic conclusions from a minimal amount of facts, we are just arguing with you because out of the previously mentioned facts, you got the idea that this was a "ghetto rigged" pos turbo civic. Hmmm...that really makes sense...
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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Just on the topic of running rich my buddies turboed tc and the exhuast smokes all the time and his car is tuned just fine and its not a ghetto rig at all.. The guy who did the tune actually said it was better for his car to run alittle rich then it would be to ever run it lean since its almost impossible to tune an aftermarket turbo set up perfect..
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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Just on the topic of running rich my buddies turboed tc and the exhuast smokes all the time and his car is tuned just fine and its not a ghetto rig at all.. The guy who did the tune actually said it was better for his car to run alittle rich then it would be to ever run it lean since its almost impossible to tune an aftermarket turbo set up perfect..
running lean is much more dangerous for your internals. you are more "ghetto rigged" if it is running lean really.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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alright guys man i am just so dumb for picturing a civic blowing smoke out of its exhaust as being ricey say wahtever you guys want, and i never said its better to run lean. you guys all think you're so smart because i pictured a different car then you, its just a joke how you guys are all caught up in this and trying to tell me how stupid i am because like i said we have different interpretations of what he was talking about. and like i said before, have you guys seen the car? no. and neither have i. thats why i said im not saying im right. so because you guys can't seem to understand that, let me make it easier for you. Im not telling you guys that you're wrong... im just saying i think i have the right to have taken what i did from it.

And can you please explain to me how im an idiot about the running rich/burning rich difference? Hmm i guess the guy just KNEW he was rich without having any indication of it.
Don't try to pull the wording card out on me.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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ok, im coming out of the closet,,.... i .. have underglows !!! oh my god IM RICE!!!!!! Only mine are plasmaglow,.. so maybe im not so rice. Is plasmaglow better than streetglow? lol, this is stupid. the kid got rocked in a race and is bitter about it, let him vent and wait on his turbo. then we will see who is not tuned right. (just my guess those will be hard to tune.)
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ironkoijak
alright guys man i am just so dumb for picturing a civic blowing smoke out of its exhaust as being ricey say wahtever you guys want, and i never said its better to run lean. you guys all think you're so smart because i pictured a different car then you, its just a joke how you guys are all caught up in this and trying to tell me how stupid i am because like i said we have different interpretations of what he was talking about. and like i said before, have you guys seen the car? no. and neither have i. thats why i said im not saying im right. so because you guys can't seem to understand that, let me make it easier for you. Im not telling you guys that you're wrong... im just saying i think i have the right to have taken what i did from it.

And can you please explain to me how im an idiot about the running rich/burning rich difference? Hmm i guess the guy just KNEW he was rich without having any indication of it.
Don't try to pull the wording card out on me.
A lot of times you can smell the extra fuel being burned so thats a sign of running/burning rich. The thing were getting at is you called the car/owner ghetto riged/ricer from one phrase of a description. What if you replace only the word "honda" with evo/sti/supra/etc i doubt we would see the ricer/ghetto riged comment.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 11:04 PM
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I wasn't saying underglow is bad... I think it can be done in good taste. I'm just saying... for someone to call another car rice when they have something that is commonly referred to as rice... just doesn't make sense.

And I know 8cd03gro probably knows this... but for any of the others in the thread that don't know... running a little rich is better because lean conditions cause extra heat. Extra heat has many bad effects: ie. detonation. I know a few people that have melted a piston or worse when running lean.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 11:39 PM
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A lot of times you can smell the extra fuel being burned so thats a sign of running/burning rich. The thing were getting at is you called the car/owner ghetto riged/ricer from one phrase of a description. What if you replace only the word "honda" with evo/sti/supra/etc i doubt we would see the ricer/ghetto riged comment.
yes i stereotyped thinking that a honda owner is more likely to have ricer/ghetto rigged his car with a turbo than someone with an evo/sti/supra/etc.. so you can bash on me for stereotyping but don't pretend no one else would (or that you never have). and like i said you guys are saying im stupid for thinking 'maybe he was saying he saw smoke coming out of his exhaust', but now you are saying 'maybe he smelled the extra fuel being burned.' what is the difference... we both have determined what we think may have happened based on the same sentence. not everybody thinks the exact same way.
i really can't believe that this is still going back and forth. i really dont get what the big deal is and why you guys feel like you gotta prove that you're right and im wrong. We're all entitled to think whatever we want about what might have happened... and like ive said a few times now none of us were there so how can any of us say who's wrong or who's right? I think thats really the bottom line...

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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 12:30 AM
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well gosh guys i didnt think this would get that much attention. well the car was nice it had some nice racing tires on it. it was black hatchback civic i think. definatly running a nice exhaust and i definatly seen and smelled some bad burning of RICE. anywhos i know the kid i went to school with him i didnt like him though. hes i think 18 at the oldest so im sure he doesnt have more money than i. it was very loud way louder than my gmpp performance. it sounded like no cat either. very quick in i was guessing 2nd gear. he actually almost crashed within about inches when we went down the highway with moddest traffic he tried to do a sqeeze between 2 cars like with a foot to spare front and back of his car lol. i dont know how good it was setup or if it was ghetto rigged or not i never said any of that. i didnt see a boost gauge but it might have been somewere else i couldnt keep up and i didnt even try to run him.

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