2.4L LE5 Performance Tech 16 valve 171 hp EcoTec with 163 lb-ft of torque

Red Rocket Scores Nice Numbers

Old Feb 21, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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Red Rocket Scores Nice Numbers

It was a Mustang dyno. The numbers probably would have been higher if I had gone to Next Level Performance. Mustang vs Dynojet 224c. As it was the numbers were pretty good. Tuning right there at the dyno allowed us to get much higher torque numbers (going to keep trying and tuning to get 300+lbs. torque) and moderately better wheel horse power numbers. Some may raise the BS flag on this but, there were 4 other people that saw it happen and also REDFOCZ (Mike) took videos.

Bottom line:

254.7whp - 296.5tq.



I know many will look at this graph and wonder what is happening at the top end. Well... Both the whp and torque drop because of the tune. REDFOCZ and I still have some work to do to get the tune right. We need to make some adjustments in the PE table on the HP Tuners software. As the rpm's build to redline (I've got set at 7,000) the thing was going from a 13.5 AFR down to 11.3 and sometimes even dipping into the 10's (pig rich) . Once we lean out that part of the PE table the numbers should go even higher and the dyno graph will also straighten out.
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 07:12 PM
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What shot of nitrous are you running? I was going to call bs till I saw you had ntrous.
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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thats awsome love the numbers.........cams?
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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that's a really weird power curve... would like to see it when the tuning is done.
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 08:14 PM
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pretty sweet. what size shot?
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 09:57 PM
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Gotta be a 100 shot.
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 10:15 PM
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i think they said about a 80shot
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 11:53 PM
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Damn that's putting down some nasty numbers....and Mike when you going to be able to tune? And has your car been running good since you tuned it?
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 11:57 PM
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Damn, some more tuning and that thing will be nasty
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Herndon_High_SS
What shot of nitrous are you running? I was going to call bs till I saw you had ntrous.
Yea... It's jetted for a 75 to 80 shot.

This is my mod list:

Fujita CAI • Custom Magnaflow Dual Exhaust
CA Header • XTC DP No CAT • STS Front Strut Bar
J&R Short Shifter • Prothane Motor Mounts
Eibach Pro Kit • KMC-Redline Wheels • AEM WB
HP Tuned • NX N2O Wet Kit [75]

By the way, if anyone is wondering the 1/4 mile time in my signature is only with a 50 shot. I need to get some drag radials. I then should be in the mid to low 13s. If I can find a track that has better traction (like Bradenton, FL) than at Orlando Speed World. The last time I was there it was like an ice skating rink, slipping and slidding all over the place.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Brandon97Z
i think they said about a 80shot
Actually, I am VERY impressed. That car is making great torque!

Originally Posted by Flytrap
It was a Mustang dyno. The numbers probably would have been higher if I had gone to Next Level Performance. Mustang vs Dynojet 224c. As it was the numbers were pretty good. Tuning right there at the dyno allowed us to get much higher torque numbers (going to keep trying and tuning to get 300+lbs. torque) and moderately better wheel horse power numbers. Some may raise the BS flag on this but, there were 4 other people that saw it happen and also REDFOCZ (Mike) took videos.

Bottom line:

254.7whp - 296.5tq.



I know many will look at this graph and wonder what is happening at the top end. Well... Both the whp and torque drop because of the tune. REDFOCZ and I still have some work to do to get the tune right. We need to make some adjustments in the PE table on the HP Tuners software. As the rpm's build to redline (I've got set at 7,000) the thing was going from a 13.5 AFR down to 11.3 and sometimes even dipping into the 10's (pig rich) . Once we lean out that part of the PE table the numbers should go even higher and the dyno graph will also straighten out.
Nice numbers bro!! So I see you are on the stock clutch still. How does it hold? Now lean it out up top and you'll be close to 300 WHP as well.

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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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Actually, I am VERY impressed. That car is making great torque!



Nice numbers bro!! So I see you are on the stock clutch still. How does it hold? Now lean it out up top and you'll be close to 300 WHP as well.
Thanks man... and yes still on the stock clutch. There are no signs of slipping at all. Hopefully I'll be tuning to lean out the top end this weekend. I have no doubts that it will go 260 to 270 on the whp and 300+ on the torque. I use to have a highly modded 94 Z28 with a 150 shot and I'm having more fun with this car.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 01:07 PM
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damn bro those are some good numbers..gives hope to us 2.4 guys...
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Flytrap
Thanks man... and yes still on the stock clutch. There are no signs of slipping at all. Hopefully I'll be tuning to lean out the top end this weekend. I have no doubts that it will go 260 to 270 on the whp and 300+ on the torque. I use to have a highly modded 94 Z28 with a 150 shot and I'm having more fun with this car.
I am assuming you did the install yourself (NX Kit)? How easy was this? I'll go on record and say that if you are seeining 10:1 AF leaning it out to 12:5.1 or 13:1 AF at WOT you may see higher than 270. Are you using the stock injecotrs also or the SS/SCs? I know with minor bolt ons I was seeing 98%IDCs on the stockers.

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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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I am assuming you did the install yourself (NX Kit)? How easy was this? I'll go on record and say that if you are seeining 10:1 AF leaning it out to 12:5.1 or 13:1 AF at WOT you may see higher than 270. Are you using the stock injecotrs also or the SS/SCs? I know with minor bolt ons I was seeing 98%IDCs on the stockers.
Yes, I did the install myself. I've been wrenching on cars for over 40 years. The install purposely took a long time. I'm very meticulous about my mods. It not only has to work perfectly but, it also must be show quality. 270+ would be pretty cool!! And yes stock injectors. There is no need to go to bigger injectors. At WOT, even with the juice the highest my injector duty cycle goes is 78%. You can easily bring down your IDC with tuning. HP Tuners is the bomb!!!

You live around the corner from were I grew up in Pittsburgh, Mt. Lebanon, Dormont area. Oh yea... Jesus Rocks!!!
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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Yes, I did the install myself. I've been wrenching on cars for over 40 years. The install purposely took a long time. I'm very meticulous about my mods. It not only has to work perfectly but, it also must be show quality. 270+ would be pretty cool!! And yes stock injectors. There is no need to go to bigger injectors. At WOT, even with the juice the highest my injector duty cycle goes is 78%. You can easily bring down your IDC with tuning. HP Tuners is the bomb!!!

You live around the corner from were I grew up in Pittsburgh, Mt. Lebanon, Dormont area. Oh yea... Jesus Rocks!!!

Thanks for the info John i don't remember what my IDCs were after I installed the SS/SC injectors..didn't really need them but I think like 78% because I wanted some room.

I have been doing the same slow meticulous wrenching for 30 years myself. God is in the details, huh... Looks like we are the geriatrics on this site.! Always nice to meet a fellow believer and from Mt. Lebannon, Dormont nonetheless!! I lived on Mt Washington during my Law School stint at Duquesne.

Post up your new dyno results. I am curious what the final outcome is. Peace!!!
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 04:15 PM
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please go back to that shop and have them put the real graph on the chart. not the quick read out one

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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 05:27 PM
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please go back to that shop and have them put the real graph on the chart. not the quick read out one

kbai
Yea... I thought it didn't look right either. That's why I want to take it to this Dynojet 224xLC, that I've also dyno'ed at before and gotten a more normal looking graph as well as good results. Like getting a second opinion at the doctors. I'm going to do some more tuning/data logging with HPT and then head out to the dyno again in a week or two. Stay Tuned... I'll update as the new numbers come in.

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I have been doing the same slow meticulous wrenching for 30 years myself. God is in the details, huh... Looks like we are the geriatrics on this site.! Always nice to meet a fellow believer and from Mt. Lebannon, Dormont nonetheless!! I lived on Mt Washington during my Law School stint at Duquesne.
Yea, old in numbers of years since born but, I feel like mid 20's. All the people I hang with are half my age and I feel like I relate to them much better than any people my age. Back in 2000 I was 50ish and working for Club Med as a Flying Trapeze Artist. So just throw the so called age number out the window. If I hung out with people that were old I'd be playing shuffle board, sitting in a rocking chair, or even dead, so I choice the latter, if you know what I mean.

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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 05:57 PM
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no, the guy runnin the dyno was lazy. there is three different read outs in the mustang system. one is what you got. one is the normal "dynojet" style. the other is a random creation of the end user.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
no, the guy runnin the dyno was lazy. there is three different read outs in the mustang system. one is what you got. one is the normal "dynojet" style. the other is a random creation of the end user.
Wow... didn't know. I'll try to give them a call and get the other printout. Would one be any better than the other for tuning purposes? Thanks...
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 10:09 PM
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Sweet ******* god!

Nice numbers!!!
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