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Old May 27, 2009 | 09:08 PM
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Spark plugs

My car has about 61,000 km on it and i figure its about time i do the fuel filter and spark plugs.

I was wondering what spark plugs you guys recommend i get for it. Also since i would like to do this myself because its so easy to do, do they need to be gapped or are they good as they come? i dont have the gapping tool at home
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Old May 27, 2009 | 09:17 PM
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I asked the same questions about a week ago and The consensus was the NGK's were the best but there were a few that kept on saying Autolite were the best. I personally haven't had anything but bad luck with Autolite plugs in the past.
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Old May 27, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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My Autolites ran wonderfully on my turbo setup.

I just put in NGK to see what the hype was about... Cost about $3 more per every 4...

Im not sure about gaping on the NON-Forced Inducted models.

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Old May 27, 2009 | 09:27 PM
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If you're stock the Gap should be about .040
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Old May 27, 2009 | 09:50 PM
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so i need to find someone with a gapping tool then lol
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Old May 27, 2009 | 10:44 PM
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Buy one at an auto parts store for like a buck...
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Old May 27, 2009 | 10:51 PM
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Alright, will do, and are you sure our gap for the 2.4 is .040?
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Old May 27, 2009 | 11:34 PM
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yep if you're pretty much stock .040 should be good
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Old May 28, 2009 | 01:11 AM
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alright, thanks, is there any particular ngk or autolite type plug i should be getting?
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Old May 28, 2009 | 11:42 AM
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NGK makes the trees go by fast
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Old May 28, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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I got Denso Iridium plugs (ITV16)

they have a smaller tip than NGK
In fact they have the smallest tip out of all plugs (patented)
0.4mm

they require less voltage and create a sharper spark
= more performance (minimal though...) and less fuel consumption


Our stock plugs are NGK anyway.................. if you look on your stock AC Delco plugs, they have the NGK part number on them.


They should come gapped properly as you buy them
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Old May 28, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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They should come gapped properly as you buy them
FAIL!!! I guarantee you if you took say 10 spark plugs and checked the gap on all of them you would come up with atleast 8 different measurements. This comes from them being bumped around and shifting during shipment. It takes 10 seconds to check the gap and set it properly! Don't be lazy!
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Old May 28, 2009 | 02:12 PM
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I have had nothing but good luck out of NGK, I have NGK plugs in everything I own..lol..
S10
cobalt
Saturn (work car)
ATV
I even tried to put one in my G/F's butthole but it was the wrong treads...lol...

I say use NGK irdium!!..FTW
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Old May 28, 2009 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Tazmanian_Dvl
FAIL!!! I guarantee you if you took say 10 spark plugs and checked the gap on all of them you would come up with atleast 8 different measurements. This comes from them being bumped around and shifting during shipment. It takes 10 seconds to check the gap and set it properly! Don't be lazy!
you're right
but I checked all 4 of my plugs before installing them and they were fine
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Old May 29, 2009 | 08:42 AM
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OK then if I'm right and you know I'm right then why tell someone that they should be right straight out of the box and they don't need to check them?
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Old May 29, 2009 | 12:01 PM
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Common sense says to just check the gap on a new plug to make sure they are correct before installing them...bouncing around in transit can alter the gap...
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Old May 29, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Red07SSNA
Common sense says to just check the gap on a new plug to make sure they are correct before installing them...bouncing around in transit can alter the gap...
Tell that to Pat. He thinks they are perfect straight out of the box...
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 10:24 PM
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Doing some reading with the ngk iridium plugs, it says u cant use a spark plug gapper to game them, but like needle nose plyers...If the auto parts store doesnt have those, will regular NGK's do?
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by _UnLiMiTeD_
Doing some reading with the ngk iridium plugs, it says u cant use a spark plug gapper to game them, but like needle nose plyers...If the auto parts store doesnt have those, will regular NGK's do?
Out of curiousity I looked in the factory service manual to see if there was anything specific about the adjustment. All it says is the gap is 1.06 mm (0.042"). Since the factory plugs are Iridium I would think if there was something special needed it would state it. Even in the list of engine tools there is no spark plug gapper shown.

BTW it does say NOT to use antisieze compound on the spark plug threads!!! There is a notice in the factory service manual.
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 11:41 PM
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[QUOTE=Chuck;3923924]
I even tried to put one in my G/F's butthole but it was the wrong treads...lol...



HAHAHAHAHA
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck
I even tried to put one in my G/F's butthole but it was the wrong treads...lol...



HAHAHAHAHA
Aaaaahhhh to be 17 and fooooolish again...
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by _UnLiMiTeD_
Doing some reading with the ngk iridium plugs, it says u cant use a spark plug gapper to game them, but like needle nose plyers...If the auto parts store doesnt have those, will regular NGK's do?
Yes they will work. Just make sure you have the right ones for your application. FYI When I checked the websites for Pep Boys and Advance Auto Parts they only had the Platinum ones listed....
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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here is where i read about the gapping for them

http://www.modernperformance.com/iri...er-p-1144.html
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 05:42 PM
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I can see that being the case because the tip is so thin but you still need a gapping tool to read what the gap is. Just don't use it to actually gap the plugs...Make any sense?
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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You are wasting your money putting plugs in at 61,000kms. Those plugs are supposed to be good for 160,000kms. Now I've personally never seen a set last that long without causing misfires.

I'd wait and change them at 100,000kms. The fuel filter is something I'd certainly change now though.
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