ok guys what do you guys think is the best for our cars. im going sri

 

Doesn't make a difference honestly. An intake is an intake...they all do the same thing and serve the same purpose. The whole "short ram" and "cold air" thing are all gimmicky descriptions. The only difference between a "cold air" is that the filter is located outside of the engine bay...performance wise it's just going to take slightly longer for air to pass through the longer tube, but that's it. It's miniscule stuff.

Just find what's the cheapest and what fits properly and get it.

 

In my opinion, as long as you are getting rid of the stock air box, you are doing yourself a big favor.

 

Good advice right there.

Go with the Injen intake for our cars. As far as I know, it's basically a SRI with the extension crap needed to make it a CAI as well so you can have it either way. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Thank you.

Yes, basically all "cold air style" intakes are just longer piping or piping with some type of coupler to connect the piping together to lead outside of the engine bay and have the filter located outside of the engine bay. This all depends on the company.

 

They are different. CAI setup brings in cold air from outside the vehicle's engine compartment. SRI brings in hot air. The air flow is what the major gain is... so yeah you may not see as much of a difference between CAI and SRI as you do when you step up from stock to SRI. However... cold air is denser. Denser air means more air in the same amount of space. More air = more power. That's why they make superchargers, turbos, ram air, etc.

So yeah, it may be a smaller difference between SRI and CAI.... but it's not the same thing. There is a difference. You should do the CAI setup unless you live in an area where you might submerge the filter in the fender (ie. lots of flooding in your area... big ass puddles that you can't miss).

 

in my opinion it doesnt matter even though you are getting colder air its still passing through the hot engine bay. it could make a difference if you are not running your car for long periods like a single run let it cool down and then run again. but like my man NJHK said it doesnt matter.

 

Sorry but that's what they want you to believe.

The fact is that when your car is in motion, there is enough cool air circulating inside your engine bay. If there wasn't, your engine temps would more than likely be higher being that the engines heat wouldn't be escaping the engine bay.

As far as your claim of "cold air on the outside", the temperature on the outside determines how cold your air is whether if the filter is on the inside or outside. Ever drive a stock car during a hot day and during a cool night? Notice a difference? Of course. Proves right there that cool air makes it inside your engine bay and inside your intake system. It's the same temperature as the outside.

Companies that make "cold air style" intakes want you to think that the heat generated by your motor just goes right back into your intake system and is somehow decreasing your performance over their all might and wonderful CAI style intake. IT'S A GIMMICK!

If you drive in floods all the time, your intake should be the last thing you worry about. If the water is as high as covering your tires, you're probably not moving anymore. If someone is that worried about water getting into their intake system (which they honestly shouldn't) they can get a bypass valve.

 

Your engine temps climbing won't matter on what type of intake you have. If you're N/A, your cooling system takes care of all that. If you're supercharged, this is why you should have an aftercooler...turbocharged, this is why you have an intercooler.

If you're N/A an engine temps are climbing extremely high, there is more than likely something wrong with your cooling system...not your intake.

 

Jerry,

CAI = plus 4hp (est.)

SAR= plus 3hp , and better throttle response.

I choose SAR.

- w

 

CAI...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...06914832507554

 

I tested this last night at the drag strip. I ran 16.2 w/ the CAI and a 16.7 w/ the SRI(Tucson is at 3400 ft. so you run alot slower then you should) the SRI killed me in the mid-range.

 

1 run is not enough to prove anything, especially if you are going into it with any sort of biased attitude (since so much of a run is driver dependent). That is very poor statistical analysis. C'mon, you honestly think you gained half a second on your quarter by extending your intake into your wheel well? If only it were that easy...

Let's see a dyno of a bone stock 2.4, the same 2.4 with an Injen SRI, and then again with the SRI extended to a CAI. Until someone goes to all that trouble, I'm not buying it.

 

Ever look at the stock intake on a cobalt???? The stock intake runs into the fenderwell area. It sits in the same area as the CAI filter sits. So driving a stock car on a cool night will feel different than a hot day because your stock intake is bringing in air from outside of the engine bay. You only proved my point there.

And as for engine temperature... your engine temp is based upon your coolant. Your coolant is cooled through your radiator which sits right behind your front grill so that it can be cooled by the moving cooler air from outside of the engine bay. No offense... but you're a fool if you think the air under the hood of your car is the same temperature as the air from outside. Sure, you may get a little bit of circulation... but not much.

 

go SRI

people may complain saying that CAI is better because it brings in "cold air", however, when the air travels up the longer METAL piping tube, the air's temperature increases because the METAL piping (which is next to the hot engine), becomes just as hot!

 

The air doesn't heat up that fast. If you've ever run a SRI and a CAI (which I have run both), you can feel the tube after you run the car. In an SRI setup, the tube is hot right after you run the engine. If you run a CAI, then feel the tube after running your engine, it's quite cool. Yeah the air may be a tad warmer than outside air, but it's a slight difference. The air is flowing through pretty quickly and doesn't really have time to heat up that much.

 

I did CAI when I had it because I figured I paid $230 for all this piping and I am going to damn use it.

 

I know about the engine temperature and how your engine is cooled...

My question to you is how do you know how hot it is under your hood while in motion?

Also, there are other stock cars besides the cobalt and their intake system lies inside the engine bay and doesn't look for specific air from the outside.

 

i got the cai either or is good i guess other then an sri u would be just suckin in warm air sence its by the motor but i dont like the whole dangling there thingy without a bracket for the sri so thats my main reason for just completing it lol..

 

I already explained...

Run an SRI setup. Take a good drive to get your engine temp up. Pull over, turn off the engine and immediately check the SRI tube. It's very hot to the touch.

Then run the CAI setup. Take the same good drive to get the engine temp up. Pull over, turn off the engine and immediately check the portion of the tube that's on for SRI setup (this pertains to the Injen intake since you can convert it). It's cool to the touch. It'll warm up after you let it sit there because of the heat under the hood and no cool air flowing through the tube. But if you check it right after you pull over and turn your engine off, you'll see how cool it actually is.

 

I've always had an "short ram" intake and I can honestly tell you that it's never been so hot that I can't touch it. Even my charge pipes which contain even warmer compressed air, I can touch them no problem.

Whatever...I'm tired of arguing something as pointless as intakes. It gives you mediocre gains no matter what style you get.

 

I said it was very hot to the touch. Not too hot to touch.

I'm tired of arguing over it too. Bottom line is either SRI or CAI setups will give you a small gain over stock. There's very little difference betwen SRI and CAI... but CAI is slightly better (in the opinion of some).

Friends?

 

awwwww

 

I agree with PpAzZ1101

I've ran both and while gains from just an intake period are small...the CAI is just slightly better. Most people are fooled into thinking the SRI is better because of the throttle response but its not

 

Sure I guess. I'm not here to make enemies, just to discuss and learn things.

Truce.