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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 01:29 PM
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ss injectors?

are ss stock injectors/harness worth getting if you don't get a tune of some sort?

is there a gain at all with out one

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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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no. injectors are worthelss unless you're running out of fuel and NEED bigger injectors. in other words, don't get them.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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from what i've heard there really is no gain without a tune from injectors ^damn beat me to it lol
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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from what i've heard there really is no gain without a tune from injectors ^damn beat me to it lol
you won't get a gain WITH a tune either. injectors do not add power.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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so its only worth getting if you have like forced induction?? not with other bolt ons
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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so its only worth getting if you have like forced induction?? not with other bolt ons
right. if you're adding more gas, you have to add more air too. bolt ons won't be flowing the amount of air needed to do anything with the bigger injectors.

only time you really want to get bigger injectors is if they're close to maxxed out, or if they ARE maxxed out. other than that, no real reason or benefit to get them.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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I'm a little curious about that. If stage 1 is injectors and a tune where are the gains coming from??
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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I'm a little curious about that. If stage 1 is injectors and a tune where are the gains coming from??
from the more aggressive tune and a raised redline. the factory tune is not what anyone would call "good" or really performance oriented.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by light'bolt
I'm a little curious about that. If stage 1 is injectors and a tune where are the gains coming from??
That is also on an F/I car the OP is talking about a 2.4
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 03:28 PM
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there is no power benefit from just injectors.

however, a lot of 2.4 owners swap them out while they are getting the car tuned so that it's just one less thing.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 03:29 PM
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so arent the stock injectors on the 2.4 maxxed or close to it tho?? so youd think ss injectors would help in theory idk
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 03:33 PM
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so arent the stock injectors on the 2.4 maxxed or close to it tho?? so youd think ss injectors would help in theory idk
i've heard both sides of this. i don't think that they are, but most cars have injectors that are on the small side.

see, an injector has a range at which it works well, so, generally, they start getting close to their limit at upper RPMs. so, if you are often near the redline, it can't hurt to do it.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 03:35 PM
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Thanks just had to ask, so larger injectors will work for a FI car but not for a N/A vehicle.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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for 50 bucks i can get the ss ones and a harness ...... in ones opinion with some mods to come in the future is this burning money is my question
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by light'bolt
Thanks just had to ask, so larger injectors will work for a FI car but not for a N/A vehicle.
well, for stage one cars, it's the tune.

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for 50 bucks i can get the ss ones and a harness ...... in ones opinion with some mods to come in the future is this burning money is my question
well, you'll have to pay to have the car tuned. that's the expense.

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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 03:42 PM
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this is true.. i want to see if anybody local to me has a tuner.. and ill pay them for the use instead of me buying one which is upwards of 500 dollars or brining it to someone just for an injector tune
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by glen229
this is true.. i want to see if anybody local to me has a tuner.. and ill pay them for the use instead of me buying one which is upwards of 500 dollars or brining it to someone just for an injector tune
what are you looking to get out of this? and what are your future plans for the car?
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 03:46 PM
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mild bolt ons for now and in a couple years a turbo.. depending on who comes out with kits and all
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 03:48 PM
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mild bolt ons for now and in a couple years a turbo.. depending on who comes out with kits and all
don't bother with the injectors then. there's really no benefit
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 03:50 PM
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alright.. thanks alot for all your help man!
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 03:50 PM
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you're welcome.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 03:56 PM
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stock 2.4 injectors run at roughly 100% IDC on a stock tune, which is a little higher than ideal, but putting larger injectors in (as previously stated 10 times) will not do anything beneficial to performance. People who've tuned with the injectors are just seeing gains from cleaning up the stock tune.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 04:00 PM
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thanks man
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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Then again there IS the issue of some of the 2.4l injectors being recalled.
Haven't heard of an active recall on any 2.0l stockers
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 04:15 PM
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well i have them just because i got a good deal on them and threw them in when i got my car tuned. with the 2.4 you really don't need them if you're just into the bolt ons though. any issue's with maxing out the stock injectors are solved right away with a tune from what i've read. and injectors are useless without getting the car tuned for them so i guess it's your call.
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