supecharging and building kit help?
12-21-2014, 03:28 AM
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supecharging and building kit help?
So I have a few quick questions. Ive been looking at zzps full sc kit and wondering if I should just save up for that or piece my kit together.
And how much of a price difference it would be?
Also on there site they say something about if I buy straight bolt off stuff from a lsj that they use 6 rib belts? And my 07 2.4 uses 5 rib and I would have to do a lot of custom work if I would piece my kit togother? If someone could shed some light on that I would appreciate that.
I'm new to all this and trying to read up on a lot of stuff.
And how much of a price difference it would be?
Also on there site they say something about if I buy straight bolt off stuff from a lsj that they use 6 rib belts? And my 07 2.4 uses 5 rib and I would have to do a lot of custom work if I would piece my kit togother? If someone could shed some light on that I would appreciate that.
I'm new to all this and trying to read up on a lot of stuff.
12-21-2014, 08:33 AM
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All that really is done with the belt is you use an xacto knife and cut one of the ribs off. There are no real 5 rib double sided belts that I have been able to find so far in the size required for the SC swap. That being said, I just bought my kit from mongorat for $700 fully ready to bolt on, used. The only issue with that is that most of the used kits now have seen some mileage, which means you will wind up going through some sort of cleanup process to get them ready for abuse and use before you bolt it on. That includes SC servicing, cleaning the intake manifold, and sending the injectors out to be cleaned and pressure checked. Mongorat is a supplier of various cobalt parts and usually has at least a couple SC kits on hand at any given time, i know he has at least one or two more available atm. Just shoot him a PM... Cobalt SS Network - View Profile: mongorat427
12-22-2014, 10:13 PM
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ZZP offers their kit with all new or rebuilt parts, so there is some peace of mind there. You'll spend way less money buying a used kit and cleaning it up to make it more functional. The only things I've replaced from my original kit was the heat exchanger. I got that new, and bought another used blower with like 60k miles on it. There are LSJs out there with well over 150k miles on their original parts. I don't think you'll run into an issue with a used intake manifold or blower. I'd just watch out for "ported" parts. Depending on who did the port work, and if the seller can prove that so in so did the porting, I'd try to steer away from ported parts.
There are plenty of excellent cars making great power on hand me down parts.
There are plenty of excellent cars making great power on hand me down parts.
12-23-2014, 01:26 AM
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just picked up a m62 eaton off ebay for 190.00
with 80 k on it not to shabby even if i have to clean her up a bit, ya i would love to buy a kit brand new but i know thats not going to happen. now I need to start buying all the other parts lol Anyone got a link to a whole list of parts i need to s/c my 2.4?
with 80 k on it not to shabby even if i have to clean her up a bit, ya i would love to buy a kit brand new but i know thats not going to happen. now I need to start buying all the other parts lol Anyone got a link to a whole list of parts i need to s/c my 2.4?
12-23-2014, 01:37 AM
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just picked up a m62 eaton off ebay for 190.00
with 80 k on it not to shabby even if i have to clean her up a bit, ya i would love to buy a kit brand new but i know thats not going to happen. now I need to start buying all the other parts lol Anyone got a link to a whole list of parts i need to s/c my 2.4?
with 80 k on it not to shabby even if i have to clean her up a bit, ya i would love to buy a kit brand new but i know thats not going to happen. now I need to start buying all the other parts lol Anyone got a link to a whole list of parts i need to s/c my 2.4?
couple links
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111283105363?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eaton-supercharger-coupler-M45-Mini-Cooper-Mercedes-New-BIN-with-Warranty-/141515565273?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20f2fc28d9
ZZPerformance - ZZP Supercharger Oil #ZZ-SCOIL
obviously you will need an intake manifold and the pulley parts from an LSJ, alternator bracket. ic pump and bracket, heat exchanger, the reinforcement bracket for the LSJ intake manifold, an intake, injectors, various harness parts to extend and rewire. 2 bar map, boost bypass valve (sc should come with it), lsj throttle body. Might be a few other things im missing.
12-23-2014, 03:16 AM
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For the supercharger rebuild you will need a coupler, supercharger oil, rheotemp 500 bearing grease, and an anerobic gasket sealer for you the snout side that the oil is held in.
couple links
Eaton supercharger Needle Bearing Grease M122 M112 M90 M62 M45 Case Rotor | eBay
Eaton supercharger Coupler M45 Mini Cooper Mercedes New Bin with Warranty | eBay
ZZPerformance - ZZP Supercharger Oil #ZZ-SCOIL
obviously you will need an intake manifold and the pulley parts from an LSJ, alternator bracket. ic pump and bracket, heat exchanger, the reinforcement bracket for the LSJ intake manifold, an intake, injectors, various harness parts to extend and rewire. 2 bar map, boost bypass valve (sc should come with it), lsj throttle body. Might be a few other things im missing.
couple links
Eaton supercharger Needle Bearing Grease M122 M112 M90 M62 M45 Case Rotor | eBay
Eaton supercharger Coupler M45 Mini Cooper Mercedes New Bin with Warranty | eBay
ZZPerformance - ZZP Supercharger Oil #ZZ-SCOIL
obviously you will need an intake manifold and the pulley parts from an LSJ, alternator bracket. ic pump and bracket, heat exchanger, the reinforcement bracket for the LSJ intake manifold, an intake, injectors, various harness parts to extend and rewire. 2 bar map, boost bypass valve (sc should come with it), lsj throttle body. Might be a few other things im missing.
I have a user on here that has a kit minus blower and heatexchangr for 450. That he's willing to sell me. 👍
12-30-2014, 11:11 PM
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Looks very clean, the first hose you posted is merely the hose that connects to the purge solenoid, its a quick disconnect. You don't have to disassemble it, but at the very least you want to change the oil. There is a drain plug on the snout, and you can drain and refill it with the ZZP oil i posted.
12-30-2014, 11:39 PM
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Looks very clean, the first hose you posted is merely the hose that connects to the purge solenoid, its a quick disconnect. You don't have to disassemble it, but at the very least you want to change the oil. There is a drain plug on the snout, and you can drain and refill it with the ZZP oil i posted.
Ya changing the oil is a must, I was worried about the bearings but after i got it this is cleaner than i thought it would be... and there is no rattling or grinding sounds so.
got the thing for 120 bucks not to bad huh?
12-31-2014, 12:02 AM
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ya i was suprised at how clean the rotors were also
and ive seen what you did with yours, the paint looks really good! I want to paint mine just dont know what color yet.
Lol and if I dont find a tuner near me im gonna have to learn tit myself
lol and still trying to find someone to help me install all the parts when i get it all together. I am all so new to this car stuff.