2.4L LE5 Performance Tech 16 valve 171 hp EcoTec with 163 lb-ft of torque

whats needed to raise the redline?

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Old 02-24-2008, 08:46 PM
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whats needed to raise the redline?

I know all you need to do is get hpt and increase it.... but what parts are needed to do it or is nothing needed at all?
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Neutral balance shafts

and im not sure as to wat else

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How high you want to go? You can get to 7,500 on stock motor.

Anything above that your going to want Neutral Balance Shafts, Upgraded Valvesprings/Retainers, and probably better cams to shift the powerband.
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^^ all of that. you'd have to upgrade the entire valvetrain, and you'd have to be careful not to get any resonant frequencies with the parts you use.
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what he said minus the 7500 RPM stock.. i know people who have broken a rocker and toaster there head's trying to rev that high bone stock valvetrain. i say to keep her safe dont go above 7200.. but for sure if your gonna run to 8k get some cam's to shift the powerband. and of course the spring's/retainer's, neutral balance shaft's which IIRC is the same as removing them completly
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im running a 7400 redline stock internals on mine, but the thing is the motor doesnt like being up there alot so dont do it everyday and youll be fine
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The springs are what you have to watch for and from what I've been told:

7150

7k is plenty high trust me
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Originally Posted by thedubsack85
neutral balance shaft's which IIRC is the same as removing them completly
Very different. You can not simply remove the stock balance shafts. Neutrals will be needed, or a delete kit made for the Ecotec block.
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so to get up to 7500 safely...

neautral balance shafts
valvesprings.... http://www.jbodyperformance.com/new/...catName=JP0923

retainers... http://www.jbodyperformance.com/new/...catName=JP0930

and cams... http://www.jbodyperformance.com/new/...catName=JP0990

the ones I posted in the link is that fine?
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The cams are for a 2.4 with VVT
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Originally Posted by Coblt ss super
The cams are for a 2.4 with VVT
Well hot damn this is the LE5 part of the forum




Had to bust your stones
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I have a 2.4
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Do you plan on boosting the LE5 at all?

Could make a tough decision with cams.

Personally I hate JBP products, some of the stuff isn't even theirs anyway. You could go with a custom regrind suited for your plans.

Also don't forget, longer stroke motors do not like being rev'd as high as square motors (such as the LSJ).
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ok sry i didnt see that
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Originally Posted by WSFrazier
Do you plan on boosting the LE5 at all?

Could make a tough decision with cams.

Personally I hate JBP products, some of the stuff inst even theirs anyway. You could go with a custom regrind suited for your plans.
Best option until comp cams loves us

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ok sry i didnt see that
It's ok sweetie, we still lub ya

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The LE5 can also swap cams with the LNF. Not the most significant upgrade, but an upgrade.
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Exhaust cams only.

Gain would only be for boosted apps
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Originally Posted by steddy2112
Exhaust cams only.

Gain would only be for boosted apps
Yes, I forgot to add the exhaust part. Wouldn't be bad if he can get his hands on a set cheap if he plans on using a Turbo.

If you plan on going N/A, I would get a regrind from Crower. Also, since your head will be coming off for the valve spring install, you might as well drop in higher compression pistons.
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And send the head off to patriot.

Tell them to make it bullet proof.

Try not to come all over it when you get it back too
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Originally Posted by WSFrazier
Do you plan on boosting the LE5 at all?

Could make a tough decision with cams.

Personally I hate JBP products, some of the stuff isn't even theirs anyway. You could go with a custom regrind suited for your plans.

Also don't forget, longer stroke motors do not like being rev'd as high as square motors (such as the LSJ).
I was thinking of just giving up the idea of being boosted, and get cams, and possibly a 50 shot of nitrous.

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Yes, I forgot to add the exhaust part. Wouldn't be bad if he can get his hands on a set cheap if he plans on using a Turbo.

If you plan on going N/A, I would get a regrind from Crower. Also, since your head will be coming off for the valve spring install, you might as well drop in higher compression pistons.
anybody make them for the 2.4 yet?

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7000 rpm is fine mechanically stock.
up to 7500 the valve springs should be upgraded with aftermarket pieces.
up to 8000 the balance shafts should be replaced with neutrals.

Obviously, cams, headwork and fueling are issues that need to be addressed to actually make the change in max engine speed useful, but above are the recommended limits according to GM's Ecotec build book.
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You can get a custom one off from diamond

Originally Posted by Witt
7000 rpm is fine mechanically stock.
up to 7500 the valve springs should be upgraded with aftermarket pieces.
up to 8000 the balance shafts should be replaced with neutrals.

Obviously, cams, headwork and fueling are issues that need to be addressed to actually make the change in max engine speed useful, but above are the recommended limits according to GM's Ecotec build book.
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Not sure, I haven't really kept up with the LE5 aftermarket. I think Wiseco makes pistons for the motor, not sure on the specs.
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Originally Posted by Dragonsfire12345
anybody make them for the 2.4 yet?
Wiseco had at one time off the shelf lower compression ones. If you call them I'm sure they can make higher compression ones as well as any other piston manufacturer if you supply them with the dimensions.
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cool, thanks for the info guys. As of now I'm still playing with my options. Not gonna buy anything as of yet.


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