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wish i a had a stick

Old Aug 2, 2007 | 02:17 AM
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wish i a had a stick

some cobalt ls coupe was runnin pretty close to me today cuz he had a stick and mines auto..

i mean i could still pull on him but he was pretty close...
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 02:39 AM
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my god, feelin your pain too

plus, as auto we're missing out on that little extra power in the higher rpms near the redline

on top of which it's more fun to drive stick

its still fast though

hell my next car (next gen cobalt perhaps?) is definitely gonna be stick.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 03:18 AM
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i ordered my car as an auto and like two days later i called the sales rep and was like wtf was i thinking can i still change it to manual?? and he said he would gm and see. It took an extra three months to build cause part of the transmission was on back order but it was so so so so so so so so so so worth the wait. I love my 5 speed. It mobs
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 03:20 AM
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I got a stick and I love it.

So much fun to drive.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 03:23 AM
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you just have so much more control over the car. none of that crappy pushing the throttle all the way down trying to get your car to downshift cause you can't get up the big hill in 4th
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 03:23 AM
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i have a auto . and it sux compaired to my first car.. 89 thunderbird SC
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 07:59 AM
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Yeah, I love stick. Every car I've ever owned and ever will own will be a stick.

I know this sounds immature, but I love how w/ the stick you can keep it in a lower gear at a higher speed when your rolling to a stop......makes my exhaust burble and pop so much.....sounds so sick.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 08:32 AM
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Get your car's ECU and TCU tuned and that automatic will whoop butt on a 5spd! Trust me! When I had mine done its a night a day difference!
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 10:02 AM
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The tests of auto and stick cars (of course, same models) usually end with less than .5 seconds difference on the dragstrip -- that equates to about half a car length. Lots of arm and leg movement for bragging rights (miss a shift and you lose)

The base 2.2L 'Balt with GMPP Performance Parts can embarrass an unmodded SS/NA up to 60-70MPH. To keep that from happening SS/NA owners need to get all the GMPP parts too!
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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tune that car up. my 2.4 auto kicks ass...the shifting is amazing. if ur going to tune the tranny n such i recommend a tranny cooler, def will help out cooling the tranny down if and when you get on the car hard.i wud want to race a 2.4 stick with the same mods as me and see who would win...of course there are no 2.4's around by me..maybe like 2...haha
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 10:20 AM
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i know my 5 speed stick stock is faster then a 2.2l auto with exaust intake by half a car..
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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yeah i'll prolly get it tuned and what not once the lease is up.. im most likely purchasing the car.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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i <3 stick too
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SlifoxS
my god, feelin your pain too

plus, as auto we're missing out on that little extra power in the higher rpms near the redline

There's nothing there. Our powerband is about from 3k-4.5k.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 10:53 AM
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Stick envy!
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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Re: wish i a had a stick

Originally Posted by dbss88
...wish i a had a stick...
Here ya' go:

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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Cobalter LS
The base 2.2L 'Balt with GMPP Performance Parts can embarrass an unmodded SS/NA up to 60-70MPH. To keep that from happening SS/NA owners need to get all the GMPP parts too!
I can vouche for that!! I put about 3 lengths on the auto 2.4 up to about 80 (1-2 on the manual), then they start slowly inching back. And about 1 car before they catch me, I hit my governor!!
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Jackalope
Get your car's ECU and TCU tuned and that automatic will whoop butt on a 5spd! Trust me! When I had mine done its a night a day difference!
Do this, get the B&M Shiftplus from CPP. It is the best $30 and 30 minute install you will ever do.

Read up on all the posts. All things considered and equal a tuned auto will beat 99% of the manuals. Only the occasional amazing driver that has insane shifting abilities will win. On the auto, every shift is the same, every launch is the same, and you never miss a shift.


I do sometimes wish I had a manual, they are more fun to drive, but.... don't knock the auto's I've pulled on away from an eclipse on the highway cuz he missed his shift and I was gone when the shiftplus hit my next gear instantly.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Archie
And about 1 car before they catch me, I hit my governor!!
Then it must look like you put it in reverse

Originally Posted by LewiSS
Here ya' go:

LewiSS, LewiSS, LewiSS, Tsk, Tsk....

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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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I don't drive a 5-speed b/c its faster or slower. I drive a 5-speed b/c you just have more overall control of your car. If your brakes go out on a 5-speed, you can thank god for engine braking. Plus, the one automatic car I did drive for a few weeks (wasn't my car....whooops) while I was fixing the RX-7 I used to have, I totalled. Fell asleep at the wheel coming home from work. The honest to god reason why.....asides from being tired from working 14 hours that day, it was b/c automatics put me to sleep. One foot action, no arm movements and only one gauge to watch (don't really need to eye the tach in an auto) made for a boring drive IMO. 5-speeds keep me awake on my morning commute and my long drive home.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 04:11 PM
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supercharged it
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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I have a 2.4 5 speed, and now I am getting a stage 2 exedy clutch. I think it will complament all of my other mods pretty well.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 04:56 PM
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I feel bad for you man. Should of really got a manual. It really is worth learning and just soo much more fun. When I drive my moms lexus sometimes, I cant stand it. You just sit there with one arm on the wheel and one arm on the shifter because you want to shift, lol. (at least for me) Sure you can make a auto just as a manual but you will never have the fun factor.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Archie
I can vouche for that!! I put about 3 lengths on the auto 2.4 up to about 80 (1-2 on the manual), then they start slowly inching back. And about 1 car before they catch me, I hit my governor!!
hmmm, you got some mods done... but the other night against a stock ls 5spd vs my auto i had just about a car length on them up to 60

im stock too performance wise


also got trashed by a SS/SC the other night lol...as expected of course..but just havin fun

Originally Posted by HickOverLOrd
I feel bad for you man. Should of really got a manual. It really is worth learning and just soo much more fun. When I drive my moms lexus sometimes, I cant stand it. You just sit there with one arm on the wheel and one arm on the shifter because you want to shift, lol. (at least for me) Sure you can make a auto just as a manual but you will never have the fun factor.
oh i know how to drive a stick.. my old car was a stick.. and i learved on a c6 vette hah. but yeah that was all the dealer has so i got it...and i kinda needed the car at the time cuz my other one died and school was startin up so yeah..owell ill make the best of it.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Schultzay
i ordered my car as an auto and like two days later i called the sales rep and was like wtf was i thinking can i still change it to manual?? and he said he would gm and see. It took an extra three months to build cause part of the transmission was on back order but it was so so so so so so so so so so worth the wait. I love my 5 speed. It mobs
You ordered and had a manual tranny installed in your cobalt?

Yeah...i wish i had taken the time to learn stick.

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