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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 05:38 PM
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2.0L turbo diesel engine may come the the U.S.

Diesel Rumor: 2013 Chevrolet Cruze May Get Turbo-Diesel I-4 - Rumor Central

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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 05:41 PM
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Looks like it should be fun. I wonder what kind of numbers can be pulled out of this. I don't think I've ever seen GM use a small diesel engine before.
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 05:55 PM
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In European guise, the engine cranks out 163 horsepower and 265 pound-feet of torque.

All they are doing is bring over an engine from Europe where everybody has diesel engines. When people find out that the engine is a $1,500+ option they wont want it anymore.
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 06:14 PM
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Not much hp for that. Might get some good mpg tho
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 06:15 PM
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Diesel engines will make more tq almost always.
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 06:23 PM
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Interesting!
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 06:23 PM
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This is good... Diesel is a less refined fuel and you would expect it to be cheaper... nope. There are new consequences that come with a diesel car. The emissions are much tougher to deal with and there are different rules as to maintenance. I would hope it to be a positive thing. If there are more diesels, and since there is technically only one grade of diesel, maybe the price of diesel will be driven down since there is a higher demand...


This doesn't always work, obviously. Diesel was almost $5/gal in 2008. Lets say at that time, when gas was $3.99/gal and diesel was about $4.80- you have a diesel that gets about 40 mpg, while a typical gasoline car gets 27 mpg.

You get 6.77 miles per dollar on regular gas.
You get 8.33 miles per dollar on diesel.

What's it worth to you?
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 06:26 PM
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I don't see diesel every being very popular here...
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 06:32 PM
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I want
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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by denlou
I don't see diesel every being very popular here...
The only manufacture that has cars with a diesel engine option that I am aware of is Volkswagen
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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 05:54 PM
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BMW and Mercedes do. Don't sell many though.
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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by riko540
The only manufacture that has cars with a diesel engine option that I am aware of is Volkswagen
True story (In addition to BMW and Merc...pretty much European brands only)...and just a few short months ago when the new TDI golf arrived...they couldn't keep them in stock...and the TDI range of all their vehicles sells extremely well. Hopefully all manufacturers start bringing their European Eco Diesel engines over here.
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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 06:51 PM
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It seems every time Chrysler brings out a diesel Cherokee or Commander, they sell terribly and they don't do it again.

With the cost of diesel and the increased maintenance cost, people are going to stick with gasoline IMO.
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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by denlou
It seems every time Chrysler brings out a diesel Cherokee or Commander, they sell terribly and they don't do it again.

With the cost of diesel and the increased maintenance cost, people are going to stick with gasoline IMO.
Well that's because Chrysler has terrible marketing and always offers the wrong engines in the wrong cars
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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 08:01 PM
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haha touche...
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 08:56 AM
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i want. i was going to buy a vw tdi but after readying the reviews on electrial issues and the dealerships doing as little as they can to fix a car and voiding warenty for everything i decided to ster clear
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 05:55 PM
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That would make sense was working on a cruze today and had to do some programing it had 8 engine codes to choose from 1.4 LUJ, 1.6 LDE, 1.6 LXT, 1.6 LEV, 1.8 2H0, 1.8 LUW and what might be the diesel 2.0 LLW and last but not least 2.0 LNP SS maybe?
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 07:16 PM
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2.0 CDTI Ecotec I4 1956 cc 160 PS (118 kW; 158 hp) @4000 rpm 350 N·m (258 lb·ft) @1750-2500 rpm



258 ft lbs and it only makes 158 hp


You turbo swap that thing and it's going to be like 250 HP 500 FT LBS

This is what would be needed for an AWD system with all that damn torque ..

interesting....

http://www.sinodiesel.com/index.php/...echnology.html
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 10:58 AM
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that article is interesting
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 02:20 PM
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DailyTech - Chevrolet Cruze Diesel to Hit Dealer Lots in 2013

More info coming out.

MPG numbers look off.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 02:37 PM
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158 hp @4000 rpm (258 lb·ft) @ 1750-2500 rpm

Tuned it could probably get a solid 180HP / 330TQ... that could be a cruze id drive.. wouldn't be as slow as *****.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by cranemaster
158 hp @4000 rpm (258 lb·ft) @ 1750-2500 rpm

Tuned it could probably get a solid 180HP / 330TQ... that could be a cruze id drive.. wouldn't be as slow as *****.
Just do a turbo and make 225HP and god knows how much torque.

I bet Vince at Trifecta would love to get a hold of one of these.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
DailyTech - Chevrolet Cruze Diesel to Hit Dealer Lots in 2013

More info coming out.

MPG numbers look off.
I bet the 51 is supposed to be hwy.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 12:46 AM
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The key to the diesel is the torque number. Forget HP. That kind of torque, married to an automatic transmission, would be a sweet driving car. As long as it is reliable, (remember the ill fated GM diesels from the late 70's?) and quiet, North American buyers "may" buy it, but only if the cost of fuel is high enough. But most importantly, North American buyers will not drive a car that sounds like a can of marbles is under the hood.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mrgrinch
Not much hp for that. Might get some good mpg tho
That's the whole point behind the Cruze. HP is not even in the minds of Chevy for it right now. It's all about MPG. Even the SS won't be all about performance.

But I am very interested in this. Let ZZP get ahold of it, simple mods and a tune. Could make a peppy fun car to drive with monster torque and great MPG
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