Its not the new cobalt
06-05-2008, 03:06 PM
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Its not the new cobalt (Cobalt Discountied in 2010?)
The car seen in simliar post in this a section is not the cobalt
One of the mods (forgot who) posted a topic of GM getting a new compact car with a 1.4L Turbo. this is that car(if some can get the link of the topic am talking about that would be great)
found link to thread
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...ight=1.4+turbo
Link on site
http://gm-volt.com/2008/06/02/new-40...but-next-year/
One of the mods (forgot who) posted a topic of GM getting a new compact car with a 1.4L Turbo. this is that car(if some can get the link of the topic am talking about that would be great)
found link to thread
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...ight=1.4+turbo
Link on site
http://gm-volt.com/2008/06/02/new-40...but-next-year/
Originally Posted by Source
Word is trickling out that GM will debut a new compact Chevy vehicle to be built on the Delta global compact car platform (same as the Volt) at an auto show later this year, and will begin production as early as next year.
The vehicle may appear alongside the Cobalt and go by a different name. The Cobalt will continue to be produced up to a 2010 model year and may then be discontinued.
The new car is reported to get 40 mpg and will use a direct-injection 1.4-liter, four-cylinder engine with twin turbochargers to do so, turning out up to 140 hp.
This may be the car we have previously seen a spy shot of (shown above).
This engine sounds similar to the configuration GM noted its upcoming lithium-ion BAS hybrid system might be ideally mated with.
As well the even smaller Beat could even make its way to the U.S.
All these reactions undoubtedly are in response to the huge consumer shift from trucks to cars due to high gas prices and the sluggish economy.
The vehicle may appear alongside the Cobalt and go by a different name. The Cobalt will continue to be produced up to a 2010 model year and may then be discontinued.
The new car is reported to get 40 mpg and will use a direct-injection 1.4-liter, four-cylinder engine with twin turbochargers to do so, turning out up to 140 hp.
This may be the car we have previously seen a spy shot of (shown above).
This engine sounds similar to the configuration GM noted its upcoming lithium-ion BAS hybrid system might be ideally mated with.
As well the even smaller Beat could even make its way to the U.S.
All these reactions undoubtedly are in response to the huge consumer shift from trucks to cars due to high gas prices and the sluggish economy.
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06-06-2008, 12:29 PM
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It's still the Cobalt replacement, even if they run concurrently for a while - they've also done this with the Malibu the last two generations - producing the previous car as a "Classic" for a while. The new car could be "Cobalt" and the current Cobalt renamed.
Several years ago they announced that the Fairfax plant would be getting a "New GM Midsize Car" along with the Malibu and Aura. Well, that "New Midsize" turned out to be the new Malibu. But they didn't simply call it a Malibu replacement at the time.
Likewise, everything I've seen from GM officially about the new compact says that it will offer better mileage than the "current offering in the segment" so they don't even call the Cobalt by name in those releases. They may not have decided whether to keep the Cobalt name or not.
I could understand renaming from Cavalier to Cobalt, but I don't really think the Cobalt has any excessive negative brand equity.
Several years ago they announced that the Fairfax plant would be getting a "New GM Midsize Car" along with the Malibu and Aura. Well, that "New Midsize" turned out to be the new Malibu. But they didn't simply call it a Malibu replacement at the time.
Likewise, everything I've seen from GM officially about the new compact says that it will offer better mileage than the "current offering in the segment" so they don't even call the Cobalt by name in those releases. They may not have decided whether to keep the Cobalt name or not.
I could understand renaming from Cavalier to Cobalt, but I don't really think the Cobalt has any excessive negative brand equity.
06-10-2008, 02:38 PM
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06-11-2008, 01:04 AM
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Single turbo and this is in no way shape or form intended to be a performance engine . Its strictly for economy and gas mileage . With the intended goals of the engine , its much more effcient to turbocharge than to remain N/A . With GM and other US automarkers , you will be seeing more and more direct injected turbocharged engines in the near future including a turbo 3.6 .
06-11-2008, 01:10 AM
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Single turbo and this is in no way shape or form intended to be a performance engine . Its strictly for economy and gas mileage . With the intended goals of the engine , its much more effcient to turbocharge than to remain N/A . With GM and other US automarkers , you will be seeing more and more direct injected turbocharged engines in the near future including a turbo 3.6 .
The new car is reported to get 40 mpg and will use a direct-injection 1.4-liter, four-cylinder engine with twin turbochargers to do so, turning out up to 140 hp.
somebody needs to get there facts straight because im picking up mixed signals
06-17-2008, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Source
The new car is reported to get 40 mpg and will use a direct-injection 1.4-liter, four-cylinder engine with twin turbochargers to do so, turning out up to 140 hp.
somebody needs to get there facts straight because im picking up mixed signals
The new car is reported to get 40 mpg and will use a direct-injection 1.4-liter, four-cylinder engine with twin turbochargers to do so, turning out up to 140 hp.
somebody needs to get there facts straight because im picking up mixed signals
06-18-2008, 09:24 PM
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06-18-2008, 09:26 PM
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Also IDK what this "source" is, but I know someone whom works for GME and has stated the 1.4 will be a SINGLE turbo hooked to either a 6 speed auto or manual.
06-20-2008, 01:10 AM
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It needs to pull better than 40 with a 6 speed and less power. The current one does what, 34 with a 4 speed? 144hp, and no VVT. With a proper transmission, 36 hwy on the current 'Balt.
06-20-2008, 02:23 AM
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I mean they're keeping the Cobalt name.
07-06-2008, 06:02 PM
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Where do you people get this TT idea from??!?
08-11-2008, 11:42 AM
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The Cruze won't likely be any slower than the current base Cobalt. It's not a performance car. It's an economy car. So I don't think that's unexpected.
However, just because it's going to have the 1.4 as a base motor doesn't mean that LNF won't be available.
I'd guess that they will start out making both Cobalt and Cruze. As they ramp up Cruze, I'd guess that the Cobalt sedan will be phased out and there will only be the Cruze sedan and the Cobalt coupe. Then when the Cruze coupe eventually comes online the Cobalt couple will be phased out leaving just Cruze.
It will be later than 2009 though. The Cruze isn't supposed to go on sale in the U.S. market until 2010 and it wouldn't surprise me if it were 2011 or 2012 before a Cruze coupe comes online. I think that's why Lutz said that the Cobalt "had a lot of life left." That would be another good 3 or 4 model years before it was completely phased out.
The Cruze is plainly a Cobalt replacement (they're near identically sized and one is Delta and the other Delta II. There's no point in producing both forever). But it's not going to replace it immediately.
However, just because it's going to have the 1.4 as a base motor doesn't mean that LNF won't be available.
I'd guess that they will start out making both Cobalt and Cruze. As they ramp up Cruze, I'd guess that the Cobalt sedan will be phased out and there will only be the Cruze sedan and the Cobalt coupe. Then when the Cruze coupe eventually comes online the Cobalt couple will be phased out leaving just Cruze.
It will be later than 2009 though. The Cruze isn't supposed to go on sale in the U.S. market until 2010 and it wouldn't surprise me if it were 2011 or 2012 before a Cruze coupe comes online. I think that's why Lutz said that the Cobalt "had a lot of life left." That would be another good 3 or 4 model years before it was completely phased out.
The Cruze is plainly a Cobalt replacement (they're near identically sized and one is Delta and the other Delta II. There's no point in producing both forever). But it's not going to replace it immediately.
08-11-2008, 07:49 PM
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The Cruze won't likely be any slower than the current base Cobalt. It's not a performance car. It's an economy car. So I don't think that's unexpected.
However, just because it's going to have the 1.4 as a base motor doesn't mean that LNF won't be available.
I'd guess that they will start out making both Cobalt and Cruze. As they ramp up Cruze, I'd guess that the Cobalt sedan will be phased out and there will only be the Cruze sedan and the Cobalt coupe. Then when the Cruze coupe eventually comes online the Cobalt couple will be phased out leaving just Cruze.
It will be later than 2009 though. The Cruze isn't supposed to go on sale in the U.S. market until 2010 and it wouldn't surprise me if it were 2011 or 2012 before a Cruze coupe comes online. I think that's why Lutz said that the Cobalt "had a lot of life left." That would be another good 3 or 4 model years before it was completely phased out.
The Cruze is plainly a Cobalt replacement (they're near identically sized and one is Delta and the other Delta II. There's no point in producing both forever). But it's not going to replace it immediately.
However, just because it's going to have the 1.4 as a base motor doesn't mean that LNF won't be available.
I'd guess that they will start out making both Cobalt and Cruze. As they ramp up Cruze, I'd guess that the Cobalt sedan will be phased out and there will only be the Cruze sedan and the Cobalt coupe. Then when the Cruze coupe eventually comes online the Cobalt couple will be phased out leaving just Cruze.
It will be later than 2009 though. The Cruze isn't supposed to go on sale in the U.S. market until 2010 and it wouldn't surprise me if it were 2011 or 2012 before a Cruze coupe comes online. I think that's why Lutz said that the Cobalt "had a lot of life left." That would be another good 3 or 4 model years before it was completely phased out.
The Cruze is plainly a Cobalt replacement (they're near identically sized and one is Delta and the other Delta II. There's no point in producing both forever). But it's not going to replace it immediately.
Lutz has already stated with quite a lot of emphisis that the "..current Cobalt is no where near it's production end." He's always stated in more then one interview/press conference that at present there are only plans to offer a 1.4L Turbo for the Cruze.
08-12-2008, 11:23 AM
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I think we'll see other engines in Cruze eventually. When you're talking about future vehicles "at present" is a very flexible terminology.
If GM is going to phase out the Cobalt for the Cruze, you think they're going to tell us right now? They want to sell as many Cobalts as they can in the meantime. They're not going to tip their hand too early.