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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:07 AM
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Eaton TVS Superchager - Any info?

I am just looking to see if anyone has any more information on the Eaton TVS supercharger? I would love to see the complexity and procedure to upgrade to one from the M62. Here is a link to the Eaton website listing it: http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/Produc.../TVS/index.htm

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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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No one knows anything about these...
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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Well it looks basically like a twinscrew to me, but i'm not sure if twin vortices is the same. It mentioned over 70% thermal efficiency and i believe ours are no more than 60%. I wouldn't mind finding out more about it. Twinscrew or not, more efficiency is what we need.
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 12:49 AM
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The TVS line is what the Ford GT uses and as you said and as is obvious, its much more efficient. I am really hoping that they kept the sizes relatively the same and that the bolt pattern is the same but could we be so lucky?

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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 12:55 AM
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I am pretty sure the TVS is still a roots blower. Just a 4 blade design, and a very efficient one at that.
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 01:26 AM
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I was reading on the redline forums that its more efficient then the Lysholm twin-screw superchargers as said by Eaton Corp. Isn't there a group buy going on for Lysholm superchargers, the big hype about not only twin-screw but that its Swedish? Kinda look like Eaton is back in the game and back on top if you ask me.

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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 01:36 AM
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Not only does it put a Twinscrew to shame, some of the TVS' are more efficient than some Turbos at high PR.
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 01:40 AM
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I have a funny white stain in my pants now... Really though, has anyone information of bolt patterns, etc? I'm looking through the redline forums now as it seems they have talked about this a year ago. It looks like Eaton should be releasing it sometime by the end of this year.

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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 01:43 AM
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The Ford GT uses a Kenne Bell 2.2l Twin Screw man.

But the TVS will be a good upgrade for us if the bolt pattern and sizes stay about the same.
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 01:44 AM
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Yeah, it has been in the works for a while. Even if it isn't a direct bolt on, an adapter plate will be easy to make. Plus you can put things like Meth/Nitrous Nozzles in this adapter plate
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by InfinityzeN
The Ford GT uses a Kenne Bell 2.2l Twin Screw man.

But the TVS will be a good upgrade for us if the bolt pattern and sizes stay about the same.
Ford GT uses a Lysholm
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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Turbo,TVS,TwinScrew... I just wish the market would become more stable for our cars, as well as "go fast" products. It seems that all these nice ideas, and products arise, but fall into endless testing phases or out of intrests. It was never this hard to mod my Z.... Oh well sorry for the off topic comment.

On Topic: Seems the TVS is better than the Twin Screw.
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 12:52 PM
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to be honest not to long ago someone from eaton posted that there will be a tvs swap for the ss s/c. let me search it and i'll post it up. it looks promising as it should be direct swap for us according to that guy so we'll see. lemme find it.
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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It's just not the classic M112...

As for the TVS... Screw it... I'm tired of waiting.
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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finaly found it took me a while Link
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by WSFrazier
I am pretty sure the TVS is still a roots blower. Just a 4 blade design, and a very efficient one at that.
no that would be a twin screw design, and those will be pretty bitch'n.
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 01:07 PM
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Good find Eddie, this is what they said. Looks like early 2008.

Originally Posted by EatonSC
2 new LSJ aftermarket kits will be available in 2008 with both a 5th gen Eaton and a TVS Eaton kit
More info to come , keep an eye on www.eatonperformance.com for release dates early 2008
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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I've heard many things about the TVS supercharger. I've heard a few people say the TVS is better than any Twinscrew. I think that depends on it. The TVS is still a roots type, and from what I know, TwinScrews produce less heat than roots types and are more efficient. I'll wait to see whats it when it comes out. Dyno #'s on stock 2.0L's, the heat of the air, and its efficiency curve. From what I remember, the TS kit out is already running very close to or AT its peak efficiency. If the TVS can do better, I may just have to change my plan of attack. So, until early 2008!
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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I will just wait around and do everything possible to my car until a blower swap comes out. Not going to go turbo like so many have just because I like being supercharged and almost every tuner with high hp has a turbo. Right now turbo is a very easy go fast swap and that is what makes it so appealing. One day, I can only hope that a SC swap will be as easy. I like what Rebel has done but again, I'll just wait and see what other options arise.
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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Yep!

Originally Posted by R&C_rallySS
I will just wait around and do everything possible to my car until a blower swap comes out. Not going to go turbo like so many have just because I like being supercharged and almost every tuner with high hp has a turbo. Right now turbo is a very easy go fast swap and that is what makes it so appealing. One day, I can only hope that a SC swap will be as easy. I like what Rebel has done but again, I'll just wait and see what other options arise.
I agree with this. SC's FTW! Whenever I get my SS/SC, I want to stay SC'ed.

Going back to the TVS: It says its up to 76% efficiency. Isn't our 1.0L M62 around the 60%'s? This doesn't seem like too much of an upgrade, and I think the TS is even higher in the efficiency range. Cause we all know people will be trying to put smaller pullies on this thing, and of course, you know what will happen. The heat will rise, pistons will blow, people will complain. Hell we still need someone to get better (return) fuel rails for the 2.0L's!

Secondly: What application would be best according to the TVS: They have two that I could see fitting the 2.0L's. The R1050 (1.9L - 3.4L) and the R1320 (2.2L - 4.2L).
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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Good find Eddie, this is what they said. Looks like early 2008.
thanks i try. i just wish that guy would post some more info.
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 04:53 PM
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Great find Eddie! I hope they return for more information or if someone wants to email them and see if they have a more specific ETA on the release.

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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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Yea, I mean a 16% more efficiency would not be worth a very high price tag.
I think some turbos are like 85%+ efficienct =(
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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Scythe_Snake
I agree with this. SC's FTW! Whenever I get my SS/SC, I want to stay SC'ed.

Going back to the TVS: It says its up to 76% efficiency. Isn't our 1.0L M62 around the 60%'s? This doesn't seem like too much of an upgrade, and I think the TS is even higher in the efficiency range. Cause we all know people will be trying to put smaller pullies on this thing, and of course, you know what will happen. The heat will rise, pistons will blow, people will complain. Hell we still need someone to get better (return) fuel rails for the 2.0L's!

Secondly: What application would be best according to the TVS: They have two that I could see fitting the 2.0L's. The R1050 (1.9L - 3.4L) and the R1320 (2.2L - 4.2L).
go to this link http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/Produc...gers/index.htm

i'played with the simulator, i think 3 hours and the biggest gain was with the R1050
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Originally Posted by Scythe_Snake
Going back to the TVS: It says its up to 76% efficiency. Isn't our 1.0L M62 around the 60%'s? This doesn't seem like too much of an upgrade, and I think the TS is even higher in the efficiency range. Cause we all know people will be trying to put smaller pullies on this thing, and of course, you know what will happen. The heat will rise, pistons will blow, people will complain. Hell we still need someone to get better (return) fuel rails for the 2.0L's!
You need to look at efficiency above 2.4 PR. Thats where everyone will want to be spinning these things. Compare the Twinscrew, M62, and a TVS. I would show the maps here but I can't seem to get on Eaton's site right now.
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