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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 11:11 PM
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meth evaporation

just musing to myself....
im no pro, but i often have a fairly solid train of thought when it comes to science.

Is it a possibility, that guys running pullys that overspin the blower, are creating so much heat....that when they spray their methanol to cool the charge and increase the octane.....
the extreme heat may in fact begin to evap the methanol content, and end up more like water injection?

now this in itself is not necessarily a bad thing.
EXCEPT if you are tuned for the meth.
which would mean your car is tuned to expect a certain octane rating, and is likely tuned leaner to account for said meth injection.....

meaning if meth goes bye bye....so does piston #4?


just thoughts. no solid facts in there....just wondering what kind of discussion we can have on this
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 11:15 PM
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Spraying after the blower FTW. Although I will be re-routing one of my nozzles to my intake. 1 spraying before and after.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 11:17 PM
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that may help, not having to come in contact with the hot blower...
but its still spraying into that super hot manifold with all that hot air.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by an0malous
Is it a possibility, that guys running pullys that overspin the blower, are creating so much heat....that when they spray their methanol to cool the charge and increase the octane.....
the extreme heat may in fact begin to evap the methanol content
But isn't that exactly what they do? Aren't the nozzles designed to make it a fine, atomized spray?
Once sprayed, the meth is trapped in the airstream and can't go anywhere except into the engine.

I could see where it might be a problem if the meth evaporates from the the bottle (into the atmosphere) before it is sprayed, maybe from a loose cap or vent. But as long as the engine still has the knock sensor it should be able to back off on the timing to protect it. Does the tuning software still allow the knock sensor to work?
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by an0malous
that may help, not having to come in contact with the hot blower...
but its still spraying into that super hot manifold with all that hot air.
dont know about you but my intake manifold is cool to the touch even after a long hard run.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 11:42 PM
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are we talkin about the same part here? lol
that **** gets hot man.

Originally Posted by DrPuttsSS/SC
But isn't that exactly what they do? Aren't the nozzles designed to make it a fine, atomized spray?
Once sprayed, the meth is trapped in the airstream and can't go anywhere except into the engine.

I could see where it might be a problem if the meth evaporates from the the bottle (into the atmosphere) before it is sprayed, maybe from a loose cap or vent. But as long as the engine still has the knock sensor it should be able to back off on the timing to protect it. Does the tuning software still allow the knock sensor to work?
yes but if it reaches its vaporisation point....what are the repercussions of that....

AFAIK, the fine spray is still liquid. albiet small particles.

what happens if the meth content vaporises?

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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 11:43 PM
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are we talkin about the same part here? lol
that **** gets hot man.
you have any cooling mods?
eversince i installed my cobra h/e i can reach down and hold my hand on the manifold, only gets slightly warm.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 11:47 PM
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well...slightly warm is different to "cool to the touch"

Mine has gotten warm since the day i bought it. even stock.

and most cooling mods work on surrounding air temperature. so in truth they dont actually cool your intake temps very much
only slow them from heating.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by an0malous
well...slightly warm is different to "cool to the touch"

Mine has gotten warm since the day i bought it. even stock.

and most cooling mods work on surrounding air temperature. so in truth they dont actually cool your intake temps very much
only slow them from heating.
well i was saying cool to the touch cause you said **** gets hot...mine has never gotten HOT with the h/e. didnt mean to hijack the thread, i just couldnt see the meth evaporating from the heat of the manifold. but then again i have no idea what temp the meth would evap. im no expert. just putting in my.02. good question though... never thought about this before...wonder if it has any merit.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 11:58 PM
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its an interesting thought.
as you would think the meth would be keeping the low pully guys safe....but blowing the engine seems to be indepentant of whether they had meth or not.
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 12:08 AM
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well it looks as if the boiling point of meth is about 148 degrees so as long as you can keep your intake temps down below that point you should be okay. but as far as spraying before the blower...who knows....
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 12:11 AM
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thats very very easy to reach with this blower.
in fact its nearly garunteed with anything lower than a 2.8 pully


hmmmm interesting indeed.
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