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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 02:57 PM
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Get a big ass truck with a huge fuel tank in the box and fill that bish up!!
hahahaha I think your onto something
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by InfraRedline
Get a big ass truck with a huge fuel tank in the box and fill that bish up!!
@ first i was totally picturing me and my friends hijacking a fuel truck.. But then reality hit me..

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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 05:51 PM
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E-85 would be nice, tho I can already max timing on 50/50 or 80/20 mix regardless of the psi.

Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should.
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 05:53 PM
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You sayin just because you can mix it doesnt mean you should? Or just because you can run E?

Nevermind I see that you mean meth mix not E mix lol
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 100% METH
E-85 would be nice, tho I can already max timing on 50/50 or 80/20 mix regardless of the psi.

Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should.
This will change when you pass 20psi
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 07:33 PM
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already have
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 08:04 PM
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You probably wont belive me if I told you lol.
probaly wont but im still interested haha
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by b00sted06ss
probaly wont but im still interested haha
Under $700 I have my own Vertical Mill so that helps lol.
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 08:35 PM
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What!!!???? That's damn cheap!
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by InfraRedline
You sayin just because you can mix it doesnt mean you should? Or just because you can run E?

Nevermind I see that you mean meth mix not E mix lol
what I meant was just because your capable of taking the car to 25*, doesn't mean you should @ these boost levels.

it's flowing a lot more air than the m62

Wouldn't want to crack a sleeve
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 11:14 PM
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Oh yeah I see what your saying. Yes with the increase in timing of course comes the increase in cylinder pressure. You start playing russain roullette with the sleeves when you add the boost and timing lol
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by InfraRedline
Oh yeah I see what your saying. Yes with the increase in timing of course comes the increase in cylinder pressure. You start playing russain roullette with the sleeves when you add the boost and timing lol
I dunno what the cfm of the s20g vs mp90 is

but you should ask hungryciphippo in this thread what happened to his stock sleeves when he cranked the boost and timing up
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 11:36 PM
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Oh i remember what happened lol no need for asking
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by InfraRedline
Oh i remember what happened lol no need for asking
yaaaaaaaaaaa lol

Shaunmcdee aka 04redline on rlf wont go past 17-18* for a reason on his s20g lol
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 12:01 AM
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darton sleeves...fixed
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 12:31 AM
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$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 100% METH
yaaaaaaaaaaa lol

Shaunmcdee aka 04redline on rlf wont go past 17-18* for a reason on his s20g lol
Yeah when I put my ported head on and drop pulleys Ill also drop the timing a few degrees to try to ride out the stock sleeves a bit
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by euthanasia
Under $700 I have my own Vertical Mill so that helps lol.
thats alot cheaper than i thought i thought it would be more pricey than a tvs
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 01:33 AM
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These motors hold together fairly well as long as they have head studs and a good tune.

My engine blew because i was simply rushing my tune. You see the first time i put pistons in my car and studded it i never re-trq the head studs after 500 miles.

Then me and shaun tuned for 22.5psi and 16* timing. Well i pushed water past the HG and ended up pulling the head and replacing the gasket.

Well after all that i wanted to take it easy for awhile so i went out to re-tune my car for WG spring which was 12psi.

So I go out and im logging some 3rd gear pulls on 12psi and not looking at the screen did 2 pulls and was finishing up my third pull when @ 7000rpm BOOM! and i felt a miss in the eng so i shut down.

Tow the car pull the head and find cracked sleeve on #4.



Reveiw the log and aaaaaaa what do ya know... my maf was scaled back for the higher boost i normally ran (18-22) and when i was on 12psi the timing had gone into the lower g/cyl range and the timing was hitting 28-29*


so it just goes to show 1 simple mistake is all it takes to ruin a motor. Keep the tune solid and clean up the maf often and the car should hold 400whp on the stock sleeves.
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by hungryhip-ccp
These motors hold together fairly well as long as they have head studs and a good tune.

My engine blew because i was simply rushing my tune. You see the first time i put pistons in my car and studded it i never re-trq the head studs after 500 miles.

Then me and shaun tuned for 22.5psi and 16* timing. Well i pushed water past the HG and ended up pulling the head and replacing the gasket.

Well after all that i wanted to take it easy for awhile so i went out to re-tune my car for WG spring which was 12psi.

So I go out and im logging some 3rd gear pulls on 12psi and not looking at the screen did 2 pulls and was finishing up my third pull when @ 7000rpm BOOM! and i felt a miss in the eng so i shut down.

Tow the car pull the head and find cracked sleeve on #4.



Reveiw the log and aaaaaaa what do ya know... my maf was scaled back for the higher boost i normally ran (18-22) and when i was on 12psi the timing had gone into the lower g/cyl range and the timing was hitting 28-29*


so it just goes to show 1 simple mistake is all it takes to ruin a motor. Keep the tune solid and clean up the maf often and the car should hold 400whp on the stock sleeves.
I was not aware thats how it died. Did your log show knock? Or was it simply cylinder pressure that killed it? Also Im assuming this was on meth?
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 01:51 AM
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ahhh good to know chris

we dont go from 22 psi to 12 psi at a click or a button or knob... so thats what shaun meant by the maf having to be PERFECT for turbo'd cars

ill do my best!
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by InfraRedline
I was not aware thats how it died. Did your log show knock? Or was it simply cylinder pressure that killed it? Also Im assuming this was on meth?
yep 90/10 7gph @ 4psi

0* KR

ya im guessing the cyl pressure was just too much.
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 100% METH
ahhh good to know chris

we dont go from 22 psi to 12 psi at a click or a button or knob... so thats what shaun meant by the maf having to be PERFECT for turbo'd cars

ill do my best!
I know just throwing it out there that a bad tune will wipe out a motor before a certain boost psi or hp #

Well ya its gotta be cleaned up more often then a s/c car and when the maf is off a little the drivability suffers. where as i dont notice that with the m62. I can run the same tune all yr (if i wanted) turbo car i had to tune for every season/weather change.
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 02:16 AM
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pretty much

btw you never called back!

you have to chase after your dogs?

ill see what i can do about getting you one these blowers. im sure jr wouldn't mind making a plate now that he's done it a few times w/ the mill.

wait until i go back to the same dyno I recently dynoed the m62 2.7 setup on for a direct comparisson.
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 02:29 AM
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good to know

ill go and dyno the setup on the 3" pulley im getting soon for 23 psi

see if its worth your while, so far so good tho even @ 20 psi

then we can see bout getting you one of these and a plate made for you
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