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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 06:55 PM
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Bi-Xenon HID Fog lights

Today i was thinking...... it would be nice to have driving lights for my daily commute over Hwy 17. I have a 08' Cobalt Sport with the factory fog lights and neither the factory headlights or foglights illuminate the road very much.i have upgraded the bulbs to Silverstars and that helped, but its seems to only illuminate the road well for about 30 ft in front of my car. I dont want to add cheesy aftermarket driving lights, but the extended illuminated range of the driving lights would be a great help throught the mountains. Soo.. has anyone ever thought of or seen Bi-Xenon projectors used as a fog light? I figured since so many people can retrofit the headlights, why not the fog lights. hook up a switch to the hi/low solenoid and you can swith between fog and driving lights. Give me some thoughts. would it work or would i be wasting my time? has anyone every done this?
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 06:58 PM
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bi-xenon is a high-beam and low-beam combo for use in headlights. Your stock fog light is a projector.

Just get HID's

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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 07:02 PM
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Your factory fogs are projectors.

Bi-xenon is for high and low beam HIDs...all you need is the lows in the fogs as there would be no way to control the high/low in the fog lighrs.

Just get a plug and play HID conversion kit for your fogs and call it a day like myself and many others have done.

Hope this helps.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 07:05 PM
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um, lol, that's exactly what i said, you just added a bunch of words.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 07:24 PM
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um, lol, that's exactly what i said, you just added a bunch of words.
Lol I know look at our post times. I posted and when the page loaded you had already beat me to it ha ha. Damn this slow ass site.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 07:40 PM
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Thanks Guys, but that would be great if i was looking for fogs. I was looking more for a driving light option. Use the low beam for the fogs and the high beams for the driving light. i was looking for a serious answer not a get HIDs and call it a day answer. I know the fog lights are projectors and last time i checked a bi-xenon HID kit was using projectors, and from what i have read a bi-xenon projector has solenoid that moves a reflector to create the hi/low effect. so please explain why it would or would not work or benefit to use them?
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 07:46 PM
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even still its much too low for a decent driving light. itd be really hard to angle perfectly down the road to get light output where u want. you need some at least at higheadlight height for decent light output down the road
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 07:47 PM
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even still its much too low for a decent driving light. itd be really hard to angle perfectly down the road to get light output where u want. you need some at least at higheadlight height for decent light output down the road
this.

Pick up one of the many sets of retrofits for sale/available on this site, the light output cannot be beat.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JcNacho
Thanks Guys, but that would be great if i was looking for fogs. I was looking more for a driving light option. Use the low beam for the fogs and the high beams for the driving light. i was looking for a serious answer not a get HIDs and call it a day answer. I know the fog lights are projectors and last time i checked a bi-xenon HID kit was using projectors, and from what i have read a bi-xenon projector has solenoid that moves a reflector to create the hi/low effect. so please explain why it would or would not work or benefit to use them?
WTF? You said fog lights right in the title. Bixenon halogens(like our headlights) use a second bulb. bixenon projectors move the cutoff shield. This will cost you upwards of 300 because youre going to need completely different projectors, bulbs(100+), wiring harness. You'll have to find a way to mount them. Not to mention the fact that these are essentially headlights that you would be putting in your fog light location so turning their brights on(not sure how you'll manage that) would be like turning your headlight brights on. Not very friendly to oncoming motorists. Like others have said. Get an HID kit for your fogs. That is your best option.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JcNacho
Thanks Guys, but that would be great if i was looking for fogs. I was looking more for a driving light option. Use the low beam for the fogs and the high beams for the driving light. i was looking for a serious answer not a get HIDs and call it a day answer. I know the fog lights are projectors and last time i checked a bi-xenon HID kit was using projectors, and from what i have read a bi-xenon projector has solenoid that moves a reflector to create the hi/low effect. so please explain why it would or would not work or benefit to use them?
Um...because your fog lights are projectors...and you can't use a high beam/low beam setup in them unless you wanted to get into some crazy wiring and retrofitting a bi-xenon projector into them...Hopefully that's not what you're talking about because that would be...no offense...retarded...unless I'm not really getting what you're saying.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 07:50 PM
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If you're looking for headlights then either get aftermarket projectors and put HID's in them or do a retro like they said.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 09:14 PM
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My bixenon hid's are acutally just a single hid bulb. The bulb retracts itself into the base of the bulb to make a "hi beam" effect. And yes they look just as my halogens did when I flipped the hibeams on (Cost me $120 off ebay) Fog lights are single beam HID's (Cost me $50 off ebay) -SAME VENDOR-

Have these for 4 years, no problems!
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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 05:39 PM
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1000!!!
But yeah dude you don't need high beam hid's in your fogs. Just get a $30 kit from ddm and spend the other 320ish on a retro for your headlights
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thats HIDs in fog lights.contact mkulrey13 if you want a pair. its a hell of a difference. hes selling some for 79 bucks right now
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 09:23 PM
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are those just the fog lights by themselves or headlights and fog lights together? and since every one seems to think it would be stupid to retro a bixenon in to the fog light location, then has anyone ever swapped in driving lights for the fogs? i will be making a pair of retrofits in the future but would also like a better aux lighting as well.
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by JcNacho
are those just the fog lights by themselves or headlights and fog lights together? and since every one seems to think it would be stupid to retro a bixenon in to the fog light location, then has anyone ever swapped in driving lights for the fogs? i will be making a pair of retrofits in the future but would also like a better aux lighting as well.
I'm sorry...but...what?
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 10:32 AM
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 07:15 PM
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Damn... its like im talking a foreign language or something. has anyone ever changed the foglights out to driving lights. In case you dont know the difference, Fog lights have a short and wide area of illumination used in conjunction with your lowbeams for foul weather, while Driving lights have a more narrow and longer illuminated area most commonly used with your highbeams.
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JcNacho
Damn... its like im talking a foreign language or something. has anyone ever changed the foglights out to driving lights. In case you dont know the difference, Fog lights have a short and wide area of illumination used in conjunction with your lowbeams for foul weather, while Driving lights have a more narrow and longer illuminated area most commonly used with your highbeams.
Nobody has done that...you know what fog lights are used for right? Short wide areas. If you put HIDs (or silverstars or some other high output halogen bulb) in your stock fog light projectors (like myself and many others have done) you will greatly increase the distance that the fog lights emit both far and wide.

I understood what you were saying...I was just hoping that wasn't what you meant.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 01:55 AM
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thanks for actually replying with something other than just put HIDs and call it a day. I have Silverstars already and they improved a little but did not extend the light range outwards, only made it brighter directly in front of the car. Which is what a fog light is supposed to do. How far will an HID setup extend that light range? to the headlight cut off? farther? Shorter? not trying to be a jerk, but i am looking for real information, not just peoples opinions. has no one ever changed the fogs lights to driving lights because there was no need for it ever to be done? Are the costs to great for most to attempt? Maybe no one has even thought about it? I have had both driving and fog lights on my previous vehicles and have had a use for both types, but prefer the driving lights for driving through mountain roads. I have done some research with a few retrofit dealers and bounced the idea off of them about the Bi-Xenon projectors to replace the stock fog lights, and they all seem to think there shouldn't be any problems, just need to wire a switch for the solenoid either to go on with the Highbeams or through a switch in the cab. I have never been afraid of the work involved to get something right or custom work. So any real information i can get from you guys will help me out.
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thats just the fogs. no headlights. also as i stated before its useless to put driving lights in your fog lights. its much too low. you dont get a proper angle to get a significant amount of concentrated light down in 1 spot.

just get retrofits and call it a day. i have e55 retros on my car and they shine just as far as my old PIAA 540 driving lights.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JcNacho
thanks for actually replying with something other than just put HIDs and call it a day. I have Silverstars already and they improved a little but did not extend the light range outwards, only made it brighter directly in front of the car. Which is what a fog light is supposed to do. How far will an HID setup extend that light range? to the headlight cut off? farther? Shorter? not trying to be a jerk, but i am looking for real information, not just peoples opinions. has no one ever changed the fogs lights to driving lights because there was no need for it ever to be done? Are the costs to great for most to attempt? Maybe no one has even thought about it? I have had both driving and fog lights on my previous vehicles and have had a use for both types, but prefer the driving lights for driving through mountain roads. I have done some research with a few retrofit dealers and bounced the idea off of them about the Bi-Xenon projectors to replace the stock fog lights, and they all seem to think there shouldn't be any problems, just need to wire a switch for the solenoid either to go on with the Highbeams or through a switch in the cab. I have never been afraid of the work involved to get something right or custom work. So any real information i can get from you guys will help me out.
Wait you want to put brights in your fog lights? Why not just upgrade your headlights with projectors of some type? I can assure you that the HIDs in the fogs will improve everything immensely and there is no need for anything beyond that with your fog lights as that is where your headlights come into play. Your fog lights are meant to cover distance from point A to point B...and then your headlights are meant to cover point B and beyond.

Originally Posted by thedude411
thats just the fogs. no headlights. also as i stated before its useless to put driving lights in your fog lights. its much too low. you dont get a proper angle to get a significant amount of concentrated light down in 1 spot.

just get retrofits and call it a day. i have e55 retros on my car and they shine just as far as my old PIAA 540 driving lights.
^^This...your fog lights can only improve so much as they sit less than a foot from the ground..so just upgrade your headlights with some projectors (btw do you have any pics of those e55 retros?) and get some HIDs for your fog lights.
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i posted a couple pics in my condo village place in this https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...=203962&page=2 thread. i should have taken some photos yesterday i was in the mountains driving around. could had some great photo representation of the lights there. ill take a few tonight on my drive back to edmonton tonight on the empty highway.
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in real life you can see trees the whole way down past the hill

theres some output photos of my highbeams. they light up signs over 1.5km away so they are bright


thats the low beam. you can drive in the middle lane of 3 lanes and still light up the ditch on either side.

those are the e55s. just get retros

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WTF? You said fog lights right in the title. Bixenon halogens(like our headlights) use a second bulb. bixenon projectors move the cutoff shield. This will cost you upwards of 300 because youre going to need completely different projectors, bulbs(100+), wiring harness. You'll have to find a way to mount them. Not to mention the fact that these are essentially headlights that you would be putting in your fog light location so turning their brights on(not sure how you'll manage that) would be like turning your headlight brights on. Not very friendly to oncoming motorists. Like others have said. Get an HID kit for your fogs. That is your best option.
lol i got my bixenon hid's on my stock headlights for 70 bucks!!! ddmtuning.com for the win..
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