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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 07:54 PM
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Caring for a black car

Hey guys, looking at an 07 SS 4-door in black for my sister.

What is involv* in ke*ing a ack caRlookinAhalf dBent? AHun thoIh the Touchle ) car *sh eve* week  defauI, but N anyth=g elseeeeded?tan anyhing be0one to ncreasOthe duUtion bTween w=hes?
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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Have it Ming'd? Thats about all I can think of that would help keep it clean longer. Obviously when washing a car do it either panel by panel, or use water that's been filtered to eliminate hard ward spots.
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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wash, wax endlessly and invest in a california car duster......
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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Have it Ming'd? Thats about all I can think of that would help keep it clean longer. Obviously when washing a car do it either panel by panel, or use water that's been filtered to eliminate hard ward spots.
What's Ming'd?


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wash, wax endlessly and invest in a california car duster......
What does a california car duster do? How do you use it?
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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The duster is a duster made from a very soft fabric to literally dust you car. It wont scratch it, but it would kill hard spots.

Minged is a special treatment like a wax or clearcoat that is like a non-stick pan. It makes everything slide right off, including dust. My dad had it on his old F-150 and driving down a gravel road, the dust just blew right past.

I would have to say that it's like $500 to have it minged though. Zaino wax would probably be close to it for cheaper.
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 01:16 AM
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I was more talking about keeping the dirt off the black. It will be my sister's car, and I need to make sure she can handle the work it takes to maintain a black car.

Really, what I want to know is would a trip to the touchless carwash per week be good enough? Or is there somthing else she should do on a regular basis?
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 01:19 AM
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2 bucket method for washing and also clay bar every once in awhile. the duster will help a lot too. this is just to add what has been said above
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 03:28 AM
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there is nothing else you can really do than what has been said. black loves to attract everything. just tell her keeping it clean will keep her skinny, that car will be the clanest balt you will ever see
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Tsa_Performance
wash, wax endlessly and invest in a california car duster......
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 03:39 AM
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Your once a week wash will keep it clean for 10 minutes; after that it's history.

www.onegrand.com

I highly the recommend the use of their products.

What you need from the above site and target.

1) soap (www.onegrand.com)
2) obsorber (target)
3) Omega Glaze - car polish, for that wet look (www.onegrand.com)
4) Blitz wax - sealant and added shine. (www.onegrand.com)
5) about 3 -4 hours of your time and a strong left and right arm
6) car duster (target)

black car = baby
baby = REQUIRES A **** LOAD OF WORK

ENJOY Your gonna have a very very very clean shiny black car with the above.
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Panici
Hey guys, looking at an 07 SS 4-door in black for my sister.

What is involved in keeping a black car looking half decent? A run though the (touchless) car wash every week by default, but is anything else needed? Can anything be done to increase the duration between washes?

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trust me i thought touchless was the way with black but its not! no car wil become clean without something touching it.
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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The best thing would be to invest in a water hose filter, not one of those crappy Mr Clean AutoDry's, but a real filter. Spots are about 80% of what makes black look bad and are magnified x1,000 on a black car.
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 10:05 PM
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When i first got mine i washed it 2 or 3 times a week then that got old, so now my car is only clean for about five minutes a week. But if shes not willing to wash it a lot and learn how to avoid scratches, then id suggest a different color. I wish i had a different color (even tho its mad sexy when its clean), and i love washing cars...
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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trust me i thought touchless was the way with black but its not! no car wil become clean without something touching it.
do not not not not not, EVER go through the touchless car wash, or if it has those bristles that run over it don't, those things are like going through a hell machine with a black car, it will leave you with more spiderwebs than spidermans crotch after jerking it.
lol.
Seriously, hand wash,
I suggest, wash it and clay it as SOON, as in the day, you get it and then use a scratch-x(if therse already scratches) use a few coats of zymol(cleaner wax) then use a few coats of caranuba wax, if not caranuba use zaino, or i find NXT works alright.
Just make sure you wax it up when you first get it, and ALWAYS use clean terry towels/sponges/waterbuckets, the webs/scratches come from dirt being rubbed across it, so also make sure you spray it off really good before you wash it.
Hope all goes well, just make sure to keep her clean!
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Panici
I was more talking about keeping the dirt off the black. It will be my sister's car, and I need to make sure she can handle the work it takes to maintain a black car.

Really, what I want to know is would a trip to the touchless carwash per week be good enough? Or is there somthing else she should do on a regular basis?
absolutely not. black gets dirty minutes after you wash it. i wipe mine down with the cali duster every day, sometimes twice a day. a wash once a week will def. not cut it with black.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 06:46 AM
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Yeah I gave up on keeping mine clean for the past 2 weeks because of road construction right by my house. They finally paved over their huge ass mess though so I think it is time for a nice wash.

Keeping a black car clean is a pain in the ass. The way I look at it, if I know I am going to be out cruising I will clean the little monster. If I am just driving to work and back chances are I will only clean it if I am bored or want it clean. Either way to reiterate cleaning it once a week will not be enough.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 07:18 AM
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Maybe the area is just different. I have been in VA for a while and I have to wash my car once every 5 or 6 days to keep it clean unless it rains. The amount of particle dust around here is not bad at all. But you have to give black cars some tlc for sure. To me, using a touchless car wash is spraying soap and water on a baby and calling it clean. To take time is to express worth.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 09:03 AM
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I'd be weary about the duster on a black car. Depending on what type of contaminants are on the paint, it could be your best friend, or you worst nightmare. Last thing you want is to be creating some dry friction between you paint and some sharp type of contaminant.

You have to gauge what the actual "dust" is before you decide how to remove it. If its just household dust, then it should be OK. However, if it is transfer from say, a gravel road, a dried up garden, et al, I'd be very weary about using the duster.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 09:29 AM
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Ive always benn a little hesitant to even try one of those dusters. it just seems like its gunna drag all the dust all over the paint and make a ton of scratches.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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Ive always benn a little hesitant to even try one of those dusters. it just seems like its gunna drag all the dust all over the paint and make a ton of scratches.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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the cali duster is awesome however you need to get some newspaper and wrap it around the duster to pull the bulk of the oil off of it over night. Next day shake it a bit a use it. After that it will be great.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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invest in the following

California water blade
California car duster
Absorber shamoi
lots of microfiber cloths
spray detailer.

these are your bible to black cars.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 12:52 PM
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Also note, if you goto one of those "do it yourself" car washes - NEVER use the brush. Dont know what rocks and **** are in those

edit: Can anybody recommend a good car wax to use?
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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invest in the following

California water blade
California car duster
Absorber shamoi
lots of microfiber cloths
spray detailer.


these are your bible to black cars.
Eeek...I wouldn't touch the Cali Water Blade if somebody paid me. Too much risk. All it takes is one piece of contaminant to get picked up, them bam, your scratching your finish with every swipe. I've seen countless stories of people using these things and wondering why they have these long, trailing scratches all over their cars.

Scratches, for the most part, are caused not during the washing stage of cleaning a car, but in the drying. The safest way is to use something like the absorber or a Waffle Weave MF Drying Towel, and blot dry the paint. This way, you aren't "dragging" anything over the paint, just lightly dabbing it as the towel absorbs the water. Then you don't have to worry about a stray contaminant being dragged across the paint.

Everyone has their own method, and maybe the Water Blade works well for you, but to each their own. Just don't expect me to be singing its praises
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 01:11 PM
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I wouldn't recommend a black car to anyone that doesn't have some scope/experience in detailing, especially a female.

I wouldn't recommend any type of car wash. Hand washing yourself is the safest bet and the "two bucket" method is the way to go.

Invest in a good wax......most likely something that is more user friendly...I wouldn't recommend Zaino for the first-timer.

I have had great results with Mother's or Mequires 3 stage, but I replace stage two with Meguires swirl remover 2.0
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