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Old 08-20-2009, 11:04 PM
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alright, thanks... I don't know what to do now. Been looking at projectors but if they aren't worth it, I don't know, and I do not have the time or know how to retrofit. I definately don't wanna be the one to take apart headlights. If anyone is up to make a set I would definately be interested in dealing!! haha
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Old 08-20-2009, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by kasper_17 View Post
alright, thanks... I don't know what to do now. Been looking at projectors but if they aren't worth it, I don't know, and I do not have the time or know how to retrofit. I definately don't wanna be the one to take apart headlights. If anyone is up to make a set I would definately be interested in dealing!! haha
Ready done retro's are pricey.... but worth it.
PM Smartdude.... he had a decent amount of experience, and does very nice work.
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Old 08-21-2009, 01:55 PM
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Alright, thanks.. tons of great info guys
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Old 09-13-2009, 12:40 PM
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when aiming the projector headlights how high should the cut off line be from the ground?
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Old 09-13-2009, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Omega_5 View Post
No no... you might have misread.
HID's in reflectors is no good. The stock Cobalt headlights are reflectors. They will cause inferior light output, and scattered glare spots.
HID's in projectors are ok. They get the job done via the proper cut off, however, they are made for halogens, so you don't get the full advantage of the HID.
An HID retrofit is best! You get high end lighting, similar to that of BMW, Acura, Mercedes, Porsche, etc. With proper HID projectors, you can full advantage of the HID lighting.

i thought projectors WERE made for hids.... are all projectors not made for hids? is there a way to make work with hids?
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Old 09-13-2009, 01:22 PM
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Ebay projectors are not designed for HID but rather halogen bulbs. They do have a cut off line but they are not as good as projectors specifically designed for HID bulbs.
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Old 09-13-2009, 02:28 PM
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how much of a difference does it really make?
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Originally Posted by SS/SC Crazer View Post
when aiming the projector headlights how high should the cut off line be from the ground?
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Old 09-14-2009, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SS/SC Crazer View Post
when aiming the projector headlights how high should the cut off line be from the ground?


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i thought projectors WERE made for hids.... are all projectors not made for hids? is there a way to make work with hids?
As far as I know, all of the currently available 'off the shelf' projectors are for halogens.

How much difference? Well, you will get far more 'projected' light with the proper projector, so a real retrofit will have a superior light output.
If you aren't concerned with the absolute best light output, but want HID's... a halogen style projector will work, as it has the required cutoff to avoid the glare.
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Old 09-14-2009, 09:25 PM
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awesome thanks.
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Old 09-14-2009, 09:32 PM
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[QUOTE=Omega_5;4300392]

Ok that doesn't tell me how high the cut off is suppose to be from the ground!
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Originally Posted by SS/SC Crazer View Post
Ok that doesn't tell me how high the cut off is suppose to be from the ground!
Yeah..... I guess I should explain it a bit better.

Measure from the ground to the center of your headlight.
On a wall 25ft away from the projector, you want the cut off to drop 2.1-2.5 inches from whatever you measured.
For example, if you measured 20" to the center of your light... you want between 17.5" and 17.9" to the cut off on a wall 25ft away.

The reason there is no clear cut number, is that the height varies depending on the height of your headlight. Every spring is worn in different, every lowering spring is a slightly different height than the rest,etc, etc.
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Old 09-15-2009, 06:52 PM
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Thanks, that helps out alot! now i can finally go out and align these damn things, lol!
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Old 09-18-2009, 10:15 PM
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ok, i aligned my projectors today and the center of my headlight was 25.5 in. the top of my cutoff is at 25.5 in. and the bottom of my cutoff is 2.1in drop. my width between is 3.5 ft. i drove it and what a difference, i can see so much better! but i still can't see road signs as well as i think i should be able to, i can see them alot better just not as good and i think i should! can i raise the passenger side and inch or 2 or will that **** off some drivers infront of me? I also cant see really far ahead of me, maybe 2 houses infront of me (in a subdivision). does that sound right?
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can i raise the passenger side and inch or 2 or will that **** off some drivers infront of me? I also cant see really far ahead of me, maybe 2 houses infront of me (in a subdivision). does that sound right?
Yes, you can raise the passenger side light.
Lots of people who do a lot of highway driving (myself included) will raise the bottom of the passenger side cutoff, so it is even with the top of the driver side cutoff.
This should improve viability off the side of the road, to aid in seeing the ditches and signs better.
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Old 09-19-2009, 05:44 PM
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sweet, thanks!
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Old 09-19-2009, 10:52 PM
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Hey Tyler, i put this together for a lot of people with Generation 1, 2, 3 Projectors.
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Old 09-20-2009, 09:12 PM
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ya i didin't know i u had to modify the projectors, but it was really easy with a drill bit!
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has anybody every tried one of the harness kits offered that apparently make wiring wayyy easier???

http://store.theretrofitsource.com/p...0b8900644617ea

all ive seen so far is wiring it the pain in the ass way such as smashing the 9007 lol which isnt my style
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Originally Posted by thedude411 View Post
has anybody every tried one of the harness kits offered that apparently make wiring wayyy easier???

http://store.theretrofitsource.com/p...0b8900644617ea

all ive seen so far is wiring it the pain in the ass way such as smashing the 9007 lol which isnt my style
That place is a gold mine... and pretty decent prices.
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Old 12-24-2009, 03:30 PM
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So correct me if I'm wrong but its the gas in the bulb that determines the temp (color) of the bulb.
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Damn thats alot of info.

Good ****.
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this is great information to know, thanks for the post!
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so do most of the projector lights already come with cutoffs or will i need to install some??
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so do most of the projector lights already come with cutoffs or will i need to install some??
If you buy a projector housing it will have the cut off. That's the whole main point of projectors. Some you might have to aim to get a decent cut off.
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