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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:05 AM
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Swirl Marks

i have tons of swirls marks on my black cobalt and want to know how the best way to get rid of them would be
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:06 AM
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polish. I would look up some articles on polishing
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:07 AM
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awesome thanks
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:08 AM
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compound, not polish. have a pro do it, and figure out how to wash your car properly.
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:10 AM
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i can wash my car properly thanks the marks were on there when i bought the car
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:13 AM
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i can wash my car properly thanks the marks were on there when i bought the car
I'd look up some of stu's threads on cars he's "fixed" up from ppl who "knew" how to wash their cars. This guy has done some of the best work I've ever seen, esp on black.
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:16 AM
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i can wash my car properly thanks the marks were on there when i bought the car
then you would know how to correct the paint with out asking. paint maintenance and repair go hand in hand. if you are so wise, please let me know your washing method, maybe i can help you.
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:19 AM
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i use a microfiber mit with armor all wash and then dry it with a microfiber towel and then i wax it
im sorry if i came around to be a bit pissed off if there is something i could do different that would be a huge help and i looked at somee of the cars you have done they look great
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:22 AM
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funny how the tone changes after the mans work speaks for itself....trust me, if you want your paint to look good, stu's the guy.
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:23 AM
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i use a microfiber mit with armor all wash and then dry it with a microfiber towel and then i wax it
im sorry if i came around to be a bit pissed off if there is something i could do different that would be a huge help and i looked at somee of the cars you have done they look great
see this is my point. everything you just said is wrong.

go to the show and shine section and look at my washing tips. after washing correctly dry it with a leaf blower ($20 at home depot) then follow it up with some good instant detailer (i use poorboys qd). if you are waxing it after skip that step, you need to clay it. **** gets caught in the paint over time, and you are just going to mess your paint up if you keep grinding more in. over the counter waxes are typically not very good. invest in a easy to learn buffer and get some good products.

im not being a dick, just being honest.

if you want to know more (starship troopers lol) go to www.autogeek.net
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:25 AM
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ya i agree i saw his work then knew i needed his help obviousky he knows something that i dont

thanks so much i will do that next weekend and agian sorry for being a dick about the washing you know what you are talking about

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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:30 AM
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ya i agree i saw his work then knew i needed his help obviousky he knows something that i dont

thanks so much i will do that next weekend and agian sorry for being a dick about the washing you know what you are talking about
You really don't have to say sorry...he was just proving a point and you washed ur car like majority of the people do.

I myself have always used a leaf blower and always use to buckets at a time. One for soap and the other do rinse after each panel to get the grit off the sponge. Inspired by Stu and makes sense.

I have learned a lot from reading his posts and other detailing forums and also using body shop approved products. I also work at a body shop so that tends to help a little when it comes to buffing and compounds.
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:32 AM
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what product should i buy i have been told meigaurs is the best i just want to go to NAPA or some[lace like that to pick it up
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:36 AM
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what product should i buy i have been told meigaurs is the best i just want to go to NAPA or some[lace like that to pick it up
Mothers if you wanna just go to the store, but I would recommend talking with Juan from TurboWax...awesome products and he can give you deals like crazy. I usually buy a lot at one time from him. $75-$100 and he gives me a huge discount. I have promoted his company at shows so it works out for the both of us.
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:38 AM
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cool thanks man
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:39 AM
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i use megiuars gold class car wash, seems just fine to me when paired with my instant detailer after. i would REALLY like to try this griots car was though.
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:40 AM
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maguires is good swirl x is good... um. my car is black and there's like a couple of scratches from my animals but as far as swirls go there is only a spot on my hood where something was on my towel and it scratched it a tad... but when you get up close to my paint and reallly look at it.. it looks bad and idk if that's because it baked in the sun but there are little circles kind of like water spots but they are like in the paint... it's mainly on the spoiler i think... can't really remember...

the only thing that scares me about using abrasives is that once you remove some of the clear coat you can't get it back... i want to have my hole car done and then have it clear coated again... donno how much itd cost tho lol.

but everything i use is maguires and it's tight.. gold wash, ultimate detailer, ultimate wax, tire cleaner, meh, everything lol. they have a clay kit i believe, i haven't used it yet though.. but for swirls the swirl x should do good. scratch x is for deeper scratches and idt that stuff should be used on like the whole car lol.
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:42 AM
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No problem and GL...when getting into buffing and polishing, like Stu said in his How To, be careful and take your time and have a feel for what your doing.
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:43 AM
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megiuars scratch x sucks dick. i dont care how hard people try to convince you that you can remove swirls by hand (unless of course we are talking about wetsanding), they are simply wrong.

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No problem and GL...when getting into buffing and polishing, like Stu said in his How To, be careful and take your time and have a feel for what your doing.
research research research.

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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:46 AM
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maguires is good swirl x is good... um. my car is black and there's like a couple of scratches from my animals but as far as swirls go there is only a spot on my hood where something was on my towel and it scratched it a tad... but when you get up close to my paint and reallly look at it.. it looks bad and idk if that's because it baked in the sun but there are little circles kind of like water spots but they are like in the paint... it's mainly on the spoiler i think... can't really remember...

the only thing that scares me about using abrasives is that once you remove some of the clear coat you can't get it back... i want to have my hole car done and then have it clear coated again... donno how much itd cost tho lol.
A lot and there hard water stains. When I was in FL it was bad...water there sux from sprinklers. And like you said you do remove clear but that's the only way to fix the problem.

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megiuars scratch x sucks dick. i dont care how hard people try to convince you that you can remove swirls by hand (unless of course we are talking about wetsanding), they are simply wrong.
Nuf said...you need more speed than your hand/arm can offer and more motions...let's keep it PG-13...

I usually use a wool pad at word with some 3M Finishing Polish for small imperfections. 3M makes some awesome professional products you can't find in stores.

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ive also heard good things about 3m. ill stick with my m105/205 combo. so good.
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:54 AM
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ok lol scratch x sux... i've never used it but everything else i've used in that brand seems to work aight lol.

and yea stuff like that should really be done with a machine not by hand... unless it's really little spots then it shouldn't really matter but still. machine works better.

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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:55 AM
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how much would a shop normally charge to do a complete detail
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:57 AM
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dont let a shop do it IMO, look on www.autogeek.net and see if you can find a reputable detailer in your area. if you are limited, make sure you ask a shop for some before/after pics IN THE SUN
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
compound, not polish. have a pro do it, and figure out how to wash your car properly.
there's plenty of polish out there that's more abrasive than some compounds. Since we're not naming specifics, either or can be fine.
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