Tinting my tail lights
jesus to sand or not to sand.. it doesnt matter as long as it works for that person. I have done many spray jobs, that i decided not to use sandpaper, just to see how it would turn out, and guess what?? fine!!! perfectly fine. Last time i tented the tails, i masked a portion on the brake lights and put the Chevy bow tie in the lens.. i put three coats on the tails, unmasked the bow tie, and then put two or three more coats on, you can hardly see the brake lights in the day time, but its nice.. Im getting ready to redo them because i think its a little dark.. and i didnt get the bowtie as perfect as i would have liked.. On the sanding deal, just wet sand before you clear it and be done with it..
sanding wont change the overall look of the lights when your done, it only changes the adhesive properties the paint you put on has to the object being painted. not sanding it makes it have poor adhesion. It wont make it more glossy or anything after. Its to extend the longevity of it. Is it really that hard to understand or do to scuff something up? because a few people half ass'd it does that mean they should recommend everyone follow there footsteps and half ass it too?
I remember getting my tail lights tinted a long time ago, and end up restoring them back to brand spanking new. Its possible to restore your nightshade tailights back to stock looking. I done it before. All you need is paint thinner to kill off the nightshade, 1000 grit sand paper to wetsand (once the nightshade is taking off completely first), and 3M rubbing compound (restore the starches from the wet sanding), Maguires Plas-X for waxing, and a good buffer to get the job done. Restored my reflectors, 3rd brake light, and all four of the taillights. If I could post a forum about how to restore your nightshade taillights back to normal. then I'm sure everyone will stop getting scared of nightshading your tail lights or don't do them at all.
Last edited by efactor; Apr 19, 2010 at 07:03 PM.
AhHA! So you had a bad experience b/c you used sandpaper that was way to agressive and fucked a set of lights up and decided its easier not to sand it. Well, that explains it for me.
Not trying to hate on people. Please dont get offended at what im saying. I just want you guys to do it right on your cars now, and whatever you modify in the future. You pay good money for these things. If its was a Honda CRX that you bought for 500 bucks off a guy, idc.
Scotch bright people. Sandpaper has a purpose. Removed texture and smooths a surface. Scotch bright has a purpose too. Does NOT remove texture, just scuffs a surface so paint will stick to it properly. Leaves the perfect scratch to remove the gloss from the old texture and paint will easily cover them and stick to those scuffs with 1 coat. You can buy them for like a dollar. Invest in them for anything you paint. Dash trim, scuff, paint. Taillights, scuff, paint. Black out your headlights, scuff, paint. you really dont need to sand most of the accent **** people paint.
Not trying to hate on people. Please dont get offended at what im saying. I just want you guys to do it right on your cars now, and whatever you modify in the future. You pay good money for these things. If its was a Honda CRX that you bought for 500 bucks off a guy, idc.
Scotch bright people. Sandpaper has a purpose. Removed texture and smooths a surface. Scotch bright has a purpose too. Does NOT remove texture, just scuffs a surface so paint will stick to it properly. Leaves the perfect scratch to remove the gloss from the old texture and paint will easily cover them and stick to those scuffs with 1 coat. You can buy them for like a dollar. Invest in them for anything you paint. Dash trim, scuff, paint. Taillights, scuff, paint. Black out your headlights, scuff, paint. you really dont need to sand most of the accent **** people paint.
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i did infact wet sand threw out the entire process. i did this idk 6 months ago now and they are still great, i havn't clear coated them tho cause when i did the clear coat was crap and it messed them up so i had to redoo them... was it just a bad can of clear or me? lol

i did infact wet sand threw out the entire process. i did this idk 6 months ago now and they are still great, i havn't clear coated them tho cause when i did the clear coat was crap and it messed them up so i had to redoo them... was it just a bad can of clear or me? lol
So you could easily use the rough side of the scrubber sponge and it'll fill the same overall purpose of a super high-grit sand?
So you're looking at about 3/4 light coats with Night Shade?
And what type of clear should you use? Anything in particular with the Nightshade or just generic "clear coat" in a spray can? Never cleared anything before.. Is the clear really necessary?
Lastly, just as a quick question, could I put (let's say) 2 coats of Nightshade on my headlights to give them a matched smoke shade to the tails? I have blackout OEM lights, but I think having everything be smoked would look legit.. I have HID's, so I'm not worried abut the light output..
Anyone? Thanks!
So you're looking at about 3/4 light coats with Night Shade?
And what type of clear should you use? Anything in particular with the Nightshade or just generic "clear coat" in a spray can? Never cleared anything before.. Is the clear really necessary?
Lastly, just as a quick question, could I put (let's say) 2 coats of Nightshade on my headlights to give them a matched smoke shade to the tails? I have blackout OEM lights, but I think having everything be smoked would look legit.. I have HID's, so I'm not worried abut the light output..
Anyone? Thanks!
So you could easily use the rough side of the scrubber sponge and it'll fill the same overall purpose of a super high-grit sand?
So you're looking at about 3/4 light coats with Night Shade?
And what type of clear should you use? Anything in particular with the Nightshade or just generic "clear coat" in a spray can? Never cleared anything before.. Is the clear really necessary?
Lastly, just as a quick question, could I put (let's say) 2 coats of Nightshade on my headlights to give them a matched smoke shade to the tails? I have blackout OEM lights, but I think having everything be smoked would look legit.. I have HID's, so I'm not worried abut the light output..
Anyone? Thanks!
So you're looking at about 3/4 light coats with Night Shade?
And what type of clear should you use? Anything in particular with the Nightshade or just generic "clear coat" in a spray can? Never cleared anything before.. Is the clear really necessary?
Lastly, just as a quick question, could I put (let's say) 2 coats of Nightshade on my headlights to give them a matched smoke shade to the tails? I have blackout OEM lights, but I think having everything be smoked would look legit.. I have HID's, so I'm not worried abut the light output..
Anyone? Thanks!
And you can put however many coats you want on it, just make sure your 1st coat is a mist light coat, otherwise it will fisheye. And I never really count the coats, i just apply them to get the desired shade i want. Everyone sprays differently so my 3 coats may be a different shade then your 3 coats. And Headlights are fine as well. use the same technique, just be sure to get it perfectly even casue headlights will show imperfections more on that big surface light up at night.
And lastly, clear coat is optional. The nightshades is pretty much clearcoat with black mixed in. The remaining clearcoat is just applied as more of a protective layer and will bring out a bit more gloss if sprayed correctly. Think of it this way, if you get a scratch or rock chip in the nightshades, that chip or scratch will penetrate into the layers of black and that chip or scratch will have less tint then the rest, making it appear redder then the rest, especially with a light behind it. So the clearcoat will just allow it to be a barrier between the nightshades and the elements. If it scratches, not a problem, will barely see it, or you can just scuff them up and add more clear to make them good as new. If the nightshades scratches, you have to strip and redo the whole light to get it to look right again. But like I said its optional, but a smart addition. And any gloss protective enamel should work
Honestly it depends on the grit of scratch it leaves, but it wont be a super high grit but more along the liens of a 500 grit scratch, which is fine to spray over. And yea the back of a sponge should work alright if its not all ate to ****. It might just be better to pick one up from lowes and designate it just for painting ****, but thats up to you.
And you can put however many coats you want on it, just make sure your 1st coat is a mist light coat, otherwise it will fisheye. And I never really count the coats, i just apply them to get the desired shade i want. Everyone sprays differently so my 3 coats may be a different shade then your 3 coats. And Headlights are fine as well. use the same technique, just be sure to get it perfectly even casue headlights will show imperfections more on that big surface light up at night.
And lastly, clear coat is optional. The nightshades is pretty much clearcoat with black mixed in. The remaining clearcoat is just applied as more of a protective layer and will bring out a bit more gloss if sprayed correctly. Think of it this way, if you get a scratch or rock chip in the nightshades, that chip or scratch will penetrate into the layers of black and that chip or scratch will have less tint then the rest, making it appear redder then the rest, especially with a light behind it. So the clearcoat will just allow it to be a barrier between the nightshades and the elements. If it scratches, not a problem, will barely see it, or you can just scuff them up and add more clear to make them good as new. If the nightshades scratches, you have to strip and redo the whole light to get it to look right again. But like I said its optional, but a smart addition. And any gloss protective enamel should work
And you can put however many coats you want on it, just make sure your 1st coat is a mist light coat, otherwise it will fisheye. And I never really count the coats, i just apply them to get the desired shade i want. Everyone sprays differently so my 3 coats may be a different shade then your 3 coats. And Headlights are fine as well. use the same technique, just be sure to get it perfectly even casue headlights will show imperfections more on that big surface light up at night.
And lastly, clear coat is optional. The nightshades is pretty much clearcoat with black mixed in. The remaining clearcoat is just applied as more of a protective layer and will bring out a bit more gloss if sprayed correctly. Think of it this way, if you get a scratch or rock chip in the nightshades, that chip or scratch will penetrate into the layers of black and that chip or scratch will have less tint then the rest, making it appear redder then the rest, especially with a light behind it. So the clearcoat will just allow it to be a barrier between the nightshades and the elements. If it scratches, not a problem, will barely see it, or you can just scuff them up and add more clear to make them good as new. If the nightshades scratches, you have to strip and redo the whole light to get it to look right again. But like I said its optional, but a smart addition. And any gloss protective enamel should work
How about on the foglight housing? Since it's glass, should you do something special for that? If I do my headlights, I want to do the fogs too.. I hate **** not matching..
you can spray tint glass, but if i were you i wouldnt sand it, just tape it off and spray. Thats a glass foglight lens thats attached to the entire housing so if you scratch it and sell the car down the line or decide it makes your foglights too dark, theres no turning back. if you just spray over it, some gasoline on a rag will take it off if you ever need to in the future
So basically, if you do a few coats (2/3), it'll be like above. Clean, OEM style with tint. But if you do more (5/6) it'll be black, correct? I don't really want black.. I like the tinted look..
So do I need a special version of tint spray for the fog or just Nightshade?
Also, approximately how many cans would I need to do 2/3 coats all around the car (tails, 3rd brake light, side markers, fogs, and headlights)? I don't want black, just a nice light smoke..
So do I need a special version of tint spray for the fog or just Nightshade?
Also, approximately how many cans would I need to do 2/3 coats all around the car (tails, 3rd brake light, side markers, fogs, and headlights)? I don't want black, just a nice light smoke..
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