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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 01:13 PM
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I've been waiting to talk about this one for a couple weeks now, today is the day Aaron says! I don't even remember how it came up, but he mentioned he had a Manifold he was looking to test out and I mentioned that I had just finished tuning Bl4des' car. He has a S252ET Turbo swapped LSJ w/the adapter plate setup on the Stock Lower Intake Manifold. I believe he put down 320ish whp at 20psi with that setup (honestly should've been more like 340s but the tune wasn't finished, not making excuses, but this will come in later in the thread).

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So I approached Justin (Bl4des) w/this opportunity and he was in the position where he could leave me the car for a little bit to test and fit the parts. I showed him what we were looking to add to the car and he was more then happy to hand the car over for a bit. Here's what we showed him:




Here's what the car looked like before:




After picking up the car we hit our first kink in the plan, and that was to finalize the tune and get some solid Before Numbers. I was going to dial in the car on the ride home and then on my commute the next day but I couldn't get a 3rd gear pull in the car with the stock clutch. I reduced the boost a bit trying to see what it would hold, but it turned out it would only hold 15psi So, Justin ordered a clutch and had it shipped to my place, in the meantime we decided to start mounting the manifold and fitting everything. This meant modifying his old Charge Piping and that we wouldn't be able to easily go back to the Stock Manifold again, so the Pre Dyno was totally out the window now.


Here's some pics of the process:












We pulled off the CP's to drop off to my welder and began working on the clutch swap. He decided to go with a SPEC Stage 2+, stock Flywheel still.











Then the piping was finished:













Now that everything was together and ready, it was time to be patient and rack up some mileage lol. Luckily this happened right as I had my 2nd kid and the Hospital was about 35 miles each way, so the trips back and forth all week knocked most of that out. Once I crossed the 500 mile mark I tried some light pulls and it was holding strong! I dialed in the tune on a lower setting without Meth to not abuse it too badly at first. With the car set at 15psi and no meth, it was easily pulling as hard as my 09 SS. I started getting the feeling this was going to end NICE

Jump towards the end of the story now where we head to the dyno. I was telling Justin and Aaron I was feeling it was in the 375-400 area, but the dyno is always the decider! So, I made an appointment one night after work and had him reserve a few hours for us to play. I showed up, strapped it down, changed nothing from how I drove in. 20psi w/Meth on a street tune, 369whp first pull! This was shaping up to be a good night!!

Here's what we ended up with:










I really feel we could've pressed on and made more, but this was already more then we all expected and Justin was quite happy with this result. So, we decided to call it a night! The 20psi Tune w/Meth ended up at 379whp, a gain of almost 60whp from his previous dyno on the same setting. Now I don't feel that is an accurate representation of just the Manifold's gain, and this is why in the beginning of the thread I try to assume what it may have been when dialed in correctly with the stock manifold. We really don't know, so none of us are trying to say this Manifold will make a gain of 60whp, just to be clear. 30-40whp seems like a safe bet IMO.


Here's a vid of a 3rd gear rip in the car:
YouTube - Thats not clutch slip


Car info:
06 SS/SC
ZZP S252ET Turbo, Manifold and BOV
TiAL 38mm EWG (open dump)
BYT CP's
TTR Intake Manifold
60s, Devil's Own Meth Injection (75% 7gph)
Undersized Intercooler :p
3" Catless DP, 3" Hahn Exhaust


You can purchase the NEW TTR MANIFOLD for a SPECIAL Introductory Price:
Turbo Tech Racing Ecotec Intake Manifold - Turbo Tech Racing, LLC



Thanks for reading!

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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 01:20 PM
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holy crap i want one for my TC
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 01:25 PM
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glad we can finally post some pics and stuff
i have only been able to drive the car a few times since getting it back because of the weather. but the car pulls so much harder now then it did on the stock mani and i couldn't be happier with the results.
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 01:27 PM
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car looks sick nasty! needs some fat tires in the front now. lol
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 01:28 PM
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yeah i will have some new tires on it for the springs and at least some drs for the track
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 01:34 PM
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 01:35 PM
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good stuff mang!
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 01:37 PM
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looks like a hahn manifold with ttrs name on it no offense and not trying to bash the thread just saying.... good numbers
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 01:39 PM
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good job nick! beast ass LSJ and good work you have done!
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by whyyoumadson?
looks like a hahn manifold with ttrs name on it no offense and not trying to bash the thread just saying.... good numbers
if you go on ttr site and compare the ttr mani to the hahn one you can see how they are made differently
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 01:56 PM
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Thanks for the write up Nick, and Justin for the use of your Cobalt!
  • This manifold has built in velocity stacks, for max air flow. (First for the ecotecs, as far as we know that is considered standard/included on all)
  • This manifold has a modular name/port plate (during fabrication) We can cusumize each one (if requested) to add extra ports if needed.
  • Custom formed runners are 1 piece port matched oval tubes.
  • Plenum is a press brake formed aluminum box, for a clean look.
  • Very nice intro price!

For more information please visit www.TurboTechRacing.com or send us a PM.

One other new product is a T3 style turbo manifold, which can also be found here:

Turbo Tech Racing Ecotec T3 Turbo Exhaust Manifold - Turbo Tech Racing, LLC

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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Bl4des
if you go on ttr site and compare the ttr mani to the hahn one you can see how they are made differently
what that its flat on the bottom and a weld on top is moved twords the center more?
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 02:03 PM
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very sweet numbers
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 02:03 PM
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I can say for a fact that it wasn't directly copied since I borrowed a TB from a member here (MrBelvidere) to take dimensions. Aaron and I went back and forth with drawings and designed that flange over a couple days. While I agree it looks similar, I assure you his own work went into this!

Ever see how many Lowering Springs, Intakes, Charge Pipes, Exhausts etc. look alike? Its hard to come into the game late and not having your part looks SOMETHING like someone else's. I was trying to get him to goto the tube design but then it's like Vulcan's (right?) if he made one like that style.
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 02:05 PM
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you can see how on the ttr mani the runners are a one piece design not welded
also you can see how ttr add a plate on with all you fitting and stuff that you need
and the curved part is welded differently

and how different do you think a intake mani will be from one company to another
there is 1 or 2 other ones out there that look similar also

it is a great piece and priced well
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Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
And I can say for a fact that it wasn't directly copied since I borrowed a TB from a member here (MrBelvidere) to take dimensions. Aaron and I went back and forth with drawings and designed that flange over a couple days. While I agree it looks similar, I assure you his own work went into this!
Thanks Nick, we did send this manifold back and forth (over night also) a couple times to get everything perfect. Along with Nick did provide us with a LSJ throttle body.

This intake has been in "design" since early spring 2010. Nick has been working with us since last fall 2010. It was designed from the ground up

4 Cyl. all look similar, they have 4 runners and a plenum. Runners should be oval, and the plenum can be a box or a round, we did the box, for more SQ inches of volume, a cleaner look, and it worked better to connect the oval runners to; it also allowed us to have velocity stacks. We could NOT have done built in stacks with a round plenum (as easy, or as cost effective).
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 02:06 PM
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oh im sure they definately put work into this...looks nice....just seems to me like half the design was already done instead of coming up with something better. ive seen a lot of that style manifold crack but that could be from multiple things not just the design. the velocity stacks are plus

Originally Posted by Bl4des
you can see how on the ttr mani the runners are a one piece design not welded
also you can see how ttr add a plate on with all you fitting and stuff that you need
and the curved part is welded differently

and how different do you think a intake mani will be from one company to another
there is 1 or 2 other ones out there that look similar also
i guarentee the plates for added stength because the similar style hahns split right down the middle.

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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 02:07 PM
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Can I have mine now? It's turbo time baby
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Bl4des
you can see how on the ttr mani the runners are a one piece design not welded
also you can see how ttr add a plate on with all you fitting and stuff that you need
and the curved part is welded differently

and how different do you think a intake mani will be from one company to another
there is 1 or 2 other ones out there that look similar also
its just an improved version....thats all i see.
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 02:10 PM
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An improved CHEAPER version LOL!.

Seriously tho, Aaron is right, its a box on some runners. Tough to make it that much different. The design on how the box mounts to the plates and the bracing for the box will prove to be the difference tho!
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 02:11 PM
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and improvements are always good
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Billig ss/sc
Can I have mine now? It's turbo time baby
Let's do this!
(the turbo...not sex) lol
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Billig ss/sc
Can I have mine now? It's turbo time baby
Yes sir! I know you have been waiting for this also.
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Bl4des
and improvements are always good
runners seem oval not coned either..... presumming the velocity stacks.....this isnt for an lnf either....... lsj, 2.2 2.4 specific im assuming?
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 02:15 PM
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Yea, not for LNF cars.

I actually have a LSJ Teflon gasket sitting here and I tried to match it to the LNF Manifold I have sitting here also, not the same. I wasn't sure if they were or not, but def not.
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