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LOL....yeah one night on portage. you have the INJEN CAI right. black SS/SC. Man could I hear you coming. could you even hear me at all (has to be difficult to impossible to hear my car if your on the gas too...LOL). I hope to get a second airbox. it might be free. then I am going to chop it up (air box mod) and put either a K&N drop in or cone filter. I think I would prefer the drop in conical filter as I think it is huge and then I have the security of the filter not falling off. That happened to another vehicle of mine but the filter was easy to get to.

check out mypictures uploaded or even go to CARDOMAIN.com. click on the link in my signature. look at page 2 to see how the car will look with Eibach Sportline springs. these springs are sitting in my trunk waiting to be installed.

The work on the trunk was done by ColorMelt on Regent. Tell Stan that I sent you. I got $225 US for my wing on ebay.
I like your car the way it looks completely debaged and window tint. I have to tint my windows yet.

EuteR

Wow.. So the wing basically paid for body work and what not?

If you dont mind me asking.. How much was the body work for u? I NEED to get rid of this wing.

EuteR

Maybe I take that back.. I called Color Melt and they said somewhere around the 5-600 dollar mark to get the wing and trunk lock shaved! I dont think I was expecting that.

I really want Stage 2.. Its a toss up.. I hate the wing so bad.. But going faster is always fun!

Maybe I will flip a coin.

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Yeah and I got rid of the antenna too! so a little more. It was so worth it though. I wanted to make sure I got something for the wing. then I saw eibach sportlines on the ebay. bought those to. I landed those here for less than half of retail. I still thinking about STAGE 1 and pulley. may do that.

peg's fastest ss

hey guys im from st.vital 2006 orange cobalt ss/sc... i have ordered my stage 2 kit and already getting problemds from my gm dealership about this voids my warranty.. i work for a gm dealer and asked our gm rep and said yes.. any failur engine to catalitic converter is void.... can anyone prove them wrong i know they cover the warranty down south but y not here?????

peg's fastest ss

oh ya and does anyone know the part # for the aem air cone that fits in the air box with no modification??? and ya id like to see a meet with some of the cars from winnipeg!!!!

EuteR

there sure arent many orange ones around here.. Just black. lol

The only one I saw was at Orion.. Thats also the one I test drove. It had Recaro's.

Let me know what you find out about the warrenty thing.. I was going to order it this week.

peg's fastest ss

i work at murray chev the one i have had 3 km on it lol.... i didnt likethe feel of the ricaros at all hurt my side.. but i also have a daughter that i put in the back so it doesnt make it much fun.

hispano1

i have that aem cold air that replaced my air box and i luv it...the supercharger is crazy loud and it seems that my car is faster. I'm down for a meet...just let me know when and where.

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Do you want to sell your stock air box?

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I am ready for a meet too!

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Cant void warranty. there just playing with you. GM made it.

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The following is found at GMtunersource page. It says best of all backed by GM. what does that mean. sounds like warranty to me.

http://www.gm.com/company/gmtunersou...ew_story1.html

2.0L Ecotec gets a boost from GM Performance Parts' Stage Kits
Performance upgrade kits for Chevy Cobalt Coupe SS Supercharged; Saturn ION Redline MSRP - Stage One Kit - $500; Stage Two Kit - $750

DETROIT -GM Performance Parts is adding some extra juice to the already high-voltage 2.0L Ecotec-powered Chevrolet Cobalt Coupe SS Supercharged and Saturn ION Redline by introducing two supercharger kits that generate real power gain at the wheels. The Stage One and Stage Two performance upgrade kits provide an additional 31 and 36 hp respectively.

"These stage kits are aimed squarely at the hard core enthusiast looking to boost the power of the already charged-up 205-horsepower 2.0L Ecotec engine of the Chevy Cobalt Coupe SS Supercharged and Saturn ION Redline," said Nancy Philippart, executive director, GM Accessories. "They deliver increased horsepower and torque throughout the operating range of the engine."

The Stage One Kit (P/N 17801947) with a manufacturer's suggested retail price (MSRP) of $500.00, includes higher-flow fuel injectors and an ECU calibration to provide a 31 hp boost to the Cobalt Coupe SS Supercharged and ION Redline Ecotec engine for a total of 236 hp and 205 lb.-ft. of torque.

The Stage Two Kit (P/N 17803229), with an MSRP of $750.00, yields more power through the middle section of the power curve versus the Stage One Kit. The Stage Two Kit includes the parts available in the Stage One Kit and adds a smaller supercharger pulley and drive belt, pushing the engine alive with 241 hp and 218 lb.-ft. of torque across a broad engine speed range.

A Stage One to Stage Two Upgrade Kit (P/N 17803230) is also available for an ION Redline or Cobalt Coupe SS Supercharged with a Stage One performance upgrade kit already installed. This kit converts the Stage One to Stage Two, increasing performance from 236 hp to 241 hp and has an MSRP of $400.00.

"The kits are easy to install and conform to all GM engineering and validation standards for the Cobalt and ION," said Philippart. "And, best of all, they're backed by GM."

The Stage One and Stage Two Kits fit 2005-2006 Saturn ION Redline and Chevrolet Cobalt Coupe SS Supercharged models only, require premium fuel, and are available through all GM dealerships.

GM Accessories and GM Performance Parts are sold in North America by Chevrolet, Buick, Pontiac, Cadillac, GMC, Saturn, Saab and HUMMER dealerships. For more information about GM Parts, GM Accessories or GM Performance Parts, visit www.gmgoodwrench.com.

General Motors Corp. (NYSE: GM), the world's largest automaker, has been the global industry sales leader for 75 years. Founded in 1908, GM today employs about 327,000 people around the world. With global headquarters in Detroit, GM manufactures its cars and trucks in 33 countries. More information on GM can be found at www.gm.com.

CONTACT(S):
Cheryl McCarron
GM Performance Parts Communications
810.606.3112
cheryl.mccarron@gm.com

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I live in St.Vital as well. PM me sometime. I believe I have seen your car around on occasion.

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Yet another warranty tid bit. From SEMA



http://www.enjoythedrive.com/content/?id=7253

Warranty Denied?



The enclosed materials are intended to help you in the event you have a vehicle warranty claim denied in circumstances where an aftermarket producthas been used. The information describes the law on vehicle warranties and will give you a sense of what is and is not an improper warranty denial.After reviewing this information, you will be aware of the steps to take to fight unlawful warranty denials.

In many cases it will not be necessary to take all the steps outlined here because these disputes are often resolved at an early stage.

What Does the Warranty Actually Say?

Start by re-reading the warranty documents. Become familiar with what the documents actually say, not what you think they should say. If the language is confusing, get help in understanding what it really means. Look for specific items or circumstances that may or may not be covered. Determine if there is a process specified for resolving disputes.

The Law

ederal law sets forth requirements for warranties and contains a number of provisions to prevent vehicle manufacturers, dealers and others fromunjustly denying warranty coverage. With regard to aftermarket parts, the gist of the law is that warranty coverage cannot be denied simply becausesuch parts are present on the vehicle, or have been used (See Attachment A for details).The warranty coverage can be denied only if the aftermarketpart caused the malfunction or damage for which warranty coverage is sought. Disputes in this area usually boil down to arguments over facts andtechnical opinions, rather than arguments over interpretations of the law.

Check Vehicle History

Sometimes a malfunction in a new vehicle may be identified as a "pattern failure" -- a failure that is recognized as common to your make and model ofvehicle. It may be a manufacturing defect which has become the subject of a government-mandated recall. You should check with another dealer, thevehicle manufacturer or an independent service provider--such as those listed below--to see if there are any Technical Service Bulletins (TSBs), ìfieldfixes or other service-related information for your vehicle which would indicate that the problem you are experiencing is a common one. In cases ofgovernment-mandated recalls, the dealer is obliged to notify you as a vehicle owner. However, you may check for yourself by calling the vehiclemanufacturers 800 number, the EPA (for emissions systems issues) or the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA, for safety-relatedissues).

EPA: 202/233-9040
NHTSA: 800/424-9393
Chiltons: 610/964-4600
AllData: 916/684-5200
Motor Publications: 800/426-6897
American Automobile Manufacturers Association: 313/872-4311
Japanese Automobile Manufacturers Association: 202/296-8537
Determine the True Cause of the Problem

If possible, attempt to independently verify the accuracy of the claims made by the dealership. The manufacturer of the aftermarket part may be helpfulto you in providing a technical assessment of the problem. If there is a reasonable possibility that the aftermarket product caused the problem, it may bebest to try to reach a compromise. If, however, it is clear that the aftermarket product is unrelated to the problem, you should attempt to gather asmuch information as possible to support your claim. Useful evidence might include photos, copies of relevant service information, records of priorrepairs performed under warranty or the objective written opinion of a qualified third party (with relevant experience, accreditation, etc.).

Try to Work it Out With the Dealer

Once prepared with the appropriate support information and a basic understanding of the law, present the facts to the dealers service manager andmake an effort to resolve the situation. Keep the discussion objective and professional. Make sure to take notes of any significant claims orexplanations made by dealership personnel and try to obtain a written explanation if possible.

If discussions with the service manager do not bring about a resolution, speak with the owner of the dealership. Many problems can be resolved at thislevel. If there is a known pattern failure which matches your problem, be sure to bring this to the dealers attention. The dealer is able to obtainreimbursement from the vehicle manufacturer under such circumstances. If there is no pattern failure, but other evidence that exists contradicts thedealers conclusion, be sure the dealer is made aware of it. Also explain that you are aware of your rights under EPAs emissions warranty and theMagnuson-Moss Warranty Act. Again, if there is a reasonable possibility that either the aftermarket product or its installation could be the cause of theproblem, your best bet is to suggest a compromise with the dealer. In many cases, presenting an objective technical assessment and a basicunderstanding of the law will do the trick.

However, if you believe that you are entitled to warranty service, but the dealer disagrees, you can take other steps to seek a resolution to the dispute.

Get it in Writing

If a dealership denies warranty coverage, they should be willing to do so in writing. Have the dealer describe the failure which is causing your problem AND how the dealer believes the aftermarket product installed is responsible for the problem. Keep an accurate log of all contacts andcorrespondence in addressing the warranty denial.

Contact the Vehicle Manufacturers Zone Representative

If a car manufacturer backs your warranty, and you have a dispute with the dealer about either service or coverage, contact the local manufacturersrepresentative. This local or zone representative has the authority to adjust and make decisions about warranty service and repairs to satisfycustomers.

Some manufacturers are also willing to repair certain problems in specific models free of charge, even if the manufacturers warranty does not cover theproblem. Ask the zone representative or the service manager whether there is such a policy.

The procedure for contacting your zone representative is usually provided in your owners manual. This information can also be obtained from a dealer,or by calling the manufacturers customer service number, as listed in your owners manual. Present your case to the zone representative. Be sure toindicate how the dealer responded to your information, especially if dealership personnel were notably uncooperative, etc. Once again, be sure to getas much information in writing as you can; request that any determinations or actions which are promised by the zone representative be confirmed by aletter or a fax.

Contact the Vehicle Manufacturer Directly

You may find that contact with the zone representative does not resolve the matter. If you are still not satisfied, the next step is to contact the vehiclemanufacturer directly. Most carmakers maintain a contact office or a special department that is responsible for dealing with warranty issues (See Attachment B for details).

Using the information you have gathered and any additional information you may have to supplement your case, forward a letter directly to the vehiclemanufacturers customer service office (sometimes called dispute resolution board or something similar). Be sure to explain your situation in detail andin a logical, easy-to-understand manner. Provide as much detail as you can about your contacts with the dealer and the zone representative. Do nothesitate to state if you felt you were treated improperly or unfairly by either. The vehicle manufacturer will almost always respond to you with a letter;sometimes promptly, sometimes not. Again, be sure to retain all correspondence in case you need it for future use. Generally, the vehicle manufacturerhas the greatest interest in ensuring your satisfaction; they want you to remain loyal to their brand. As such, they will likely make a good faith effort toresolve the issue particularly if there is a known pattern of similar failures. If there is a request for any additional information, be sure to keep a record ofwhat you send. If the manufacturer should still decide against you, make sure that their refusal letter provides an explanation of how they believe theaftermarket part caused the problem.

Local Approaches You Can Try

If you cannot get satisfaction from the dealer, the zone representative or the manufacturer, contact one or all of the following:

Better Business Bureau
State Attorney General< li>
Local Department of Motor Vehicles
State Consumer Protection Office
Many states also have county and city offices that intervene or mediate on behalf of individual consumers to resolve complaints.

You also might consider using a dispute resolution organization to arbitrate your disagreement if you and the dealer are willing. Under the terms of manywarranties, this may be a required first step before you can sue the dealer or manufacturer. Check your warranty to see if this is the case.

If you bought the vehicle from a franchised dealer, you may be able to seek mediation through the Automotive Consumer Action Program(AUTOCAP). AUTOCAP is a dispute resolution program coordinated nationally by the National Automobile Dealers Association (NADA: 800/252-6232), and sponsored through state and local dealer associations in many cities. Check with the dealer association in your area to see if theyoperate a mediation program.

National Approaches You Can Try

Since the manufacturers failure to honor the terms of the warranty may be a violation of federal law, you can pursue the issue with the appropriatefederal agency.

You can call or write the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) and ask for assistance on non-emission-related problems. Input from consumers is veryimportant to the work of the FTC. These contacts with consumers are often the first indication of a problem in the marketplace and may provide initialevidence to begin an investigation. Although the agency cannot act to resolve individual problems, it can act when it sees a pattern of possible lawviolations.

FTC, Washington, D.C.: 202/326-3128The FTC also maintains regional offices to field consumer complaints. For the telephone number to one near you, see Attachment B.

In the case of a problem with an emission-related component, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is the organization to contact. A pamphletpublished by the EPA on emissions warranty matters called ìWhat You Should Know About Your Auto Emissions Warranty,î can help explain youroptions. In essence, the EPA requires that you exhaust all of your options with the vehicle manufacturer before you contact the Agency. In all cases,you must correspond in with the EPA in writing. You must also provide copies of all correspondence with the dealer and manufacturer, as well as anyindependent evidence you may have that describes the cause of the problem. The better you are able to make your case that the aftermarket part wasnot the cause of the failure, the more likely you are to get EPAs help. The EPA is particularly interested in any evidence of a pattern failure beinginvolved.

Warranty ComplaintField Operations and Support Division (EN-397F)U.S. Environmental Protection AgencyWashington, D.C. 20460Telephone: 202/233-9040 or 202/233-9100

You can also call the Bureau of Consumer Protections Office of Consumer & Business Education at 202/326-3650.

Final Steps

The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act may also be helpful. Under this federal law, you can sue on breach of express and implied warranties. The mainpoint of interest here is that the Act says warranty coverage may not be conditioned upon the use of only the vehicle manufacturers parts unless theparts are provided free of charge. In other words, use of a non-carmaker product should not void your warranty unless it caused the problem.

Obviously, litigation can involve considerable time and expense on your part. However, if the cost of the warranty claim is high enough, this may be anoption to consider. Any such lawsuit or claim would have to be fought on the unique merits of the case and we recommend that you consider findingqualified legal counsel familiar with this area of law. In some cases, the filing of a lawsuit may encourage a settlement of the dispute. You should also beparticularly aware of the fact that once you file a lawsuit or claim against the dealer or manufacturer, your vehicle and your documentation may becomematerial evidence and may be subject to inspection and reviews in the lawsuit.

You can also consider going to small claims court, where you can resolve disputes involving small amounts of money for a low cost. The clerk of yourlocal small claims court can tell you how to file a suit and what the dollar limit is in your state. Again, this action will sometimes lead the parties to settlethe dispute.

No matter which steps you undertake, always approach the situation in a professional manner. Fits of anger, shouting, threats, and the like seldomaccomplish anything other than aggravating the situation. The best strategy is to stay calm and tactfully demonstrate your knowledge of your rights andpotential courses of action.

In most cases, it will not be necessary to go through the entire process described here. What you will normally find is that you will be able to resolveyour situation at a fairly early stage if you have the proper information in written form and you approach the issue in a calm, professional manner.

EuteR

holy ****... anyone want to sum that **** up? lol

hispano.. are u the one thats always sittin at tim hortons on sunday's

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SUM IT UP....Hmmmm .....OK

You have rights. GM does say they honor warranty with this kit! that is the whole Idea of GMSTAGES. Steps are oulined with SEMA advice. GM supports their warranty and aftermarket as the aftermarket supply will give buyers a desire for to purchase the cobalt. More sales for GM.

The part you installed or GM installed has to be proven the cause inorder to deny warranty. THE END.

peg's fastest ss

ok so i understand the whole legal aspect but in canada do we have that law that the aftermarket part has to be proven to be the fault??? i know in the states its law to avoid legal law suites...
oh ya and snipes id love to hear what ur car sounds like .. i want to do it but i heard on hear what one sounded like and i wasnt too sure i liked it lol but i bet actually hearing it would be better... and what that kit cost????
if anyone wants to meet up im up for that coffee or what not....

peg's fastest ss

oh ya and anybody thinking of doin some auto cross this year... i did it with my camaro but got rocked by the civics lol i think its pay back time... be pretty cool to have a couple of ss/sc out there kickin some tin can a$$

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LOL .... I was like what are you talking about then I realized you think I am totally modded up.... right?

look closer at my signature. RED is the mods that are done. and blue and black are mods planned.

peg's fastest ss

oh lol nm....

peg's fastest ss

just wonderin... i noticed theres 2 cobalt ss/sc that come to my work often just want to know if u guys come on here or not.. a black one and a blue one....

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My car came from Murray's but I go across the street for service.

peg's fastest ss

awhhhh... i just saw the pic with u in frt of murrays lol ....where u planning on buying ur stuff from?

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Cheapest who evet that is? so far I can get stage 2 for 1050. is that good? I think I could get for a $1000.