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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 10:10 AM
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haha let me know what works best for you!
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 10:32 AM
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esso is certainly a billion times easier to get in Halifax... other than that Shell on Robie where is there any others?
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 10:51 AM
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me personally i try to keep it filled with shell and bp 93 octane only but besides the more attractive signs i have no way of knowing who really has the better gas out of the bunch lol
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 11:11 AM
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My car likes petro ultra 94. It hates husky/esso with the ethanol
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Whitty
esso is certainly a billion times easier to get in Halifax... other than that Shell on Robie where is there any others?
there's another one on Windmill road in Burnside. it's bigger but still looks old lol. I used to fill up there when I was living in Dartmouth.

I don't know which is better out of Esso 91 and Shell 91.
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 02:49 PM
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im @ about half tank now, think when i get down low, i'll fill a gas jug up from esso 91, and another from shell 91 . and strap it down @ ravens.


Thinking, 3 runs on Gas A,

let car cool down, drain gas. Refill with gas B

let warm up to idle temps

3 runs Gas B

think good variables to watch would be

knock
Peak Power

any other suggestions???

once i have the time i would love to know the definitive best gas around HRM.
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 07:19 PM
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IMO all gas around here is crap and probably comes from the same place. doubt you will see an appreciable difference in power or performance between any 91 octane fuel
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 11:14 PM
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All the gas comes from the esso refinery in woodside, wether it be shell, irving, petro.

Myself have never found too much of a difference between any of them, aside from shell and ultramar gas which I seem to get better mileage on, plus ultramar has the value max card which is nice, but performance wise I never seen or noticed a difference, maybe someone with hptuners can run some different brands of gas and data log or something and maybe see what differences there is on day to day driving?
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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 08:36 AM
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yes, we have known all gas comes fro mthe imperial oil refinary, or is shipped from irving refinary in new brunswick.

we know that the same imperial oil trucks deliver to all the stations in the maritimes

we know that each station then adds their branded form of additives to their gas @ station. When the trucks from the the imperial oil deliver.

@ daddy, im expcecting basically no appreciable difference in power, i'd be happy with a +/- 1 WHP TBH, it mostly just to find out if there is ANY difference.

waste of time and money in the long run?.... probably! but in the name of crazy Ceeker science i'm gonna find out!

main test i want to see, is difference in shell V-Power Additives, vs Esso 91 Additives (if esso 91 even has additives) shell 91 is basically esso 91 + the v-power shell additives. I would just like to see if that makes any differences.

you are right, i probably wont notice any discernable preformance difference in terms of HP/TQ; i'm expecting such. but if i notice one gas has a smoother graph (less knock) i'd make the switch for the motor. If that nets me 1 WHP, i couldnt care less

my car only does 150 WHP anyway that 1 WHP will be like VTEC
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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ceeker
yes, we have known all gas comes fro mthe imperial oil refinary, or is shipped from irving refinary in new brunswick.

we know that the same imperial oil trucks deliver to all the stations in the maritimes

we know that each station then adds their branded form of additives to their gas @ station. When the trucks from the the imperial oil deliver.

@ daddy, im expcecting basically no appreciable difference in power, i'd be happy with a +/- 1 WHP TBH, it mostly just to find out if there is ANY difference.

waste of time and money in the long run?.... probably! but in the name of crazy Ceeker science i'm gonna find out!

main test i want to see, is difference in shell V-Power Additives, vs Esso 91 Additives (if esso 91 even has additives) shell 91 is basically esso 91 + the v-power shell additives. I would just like to see if that makes any differences.

you are right, i probably wont notice any discernable preformance difference in terms of HP/TQ; i'm expecting such. but if i notice one gas has a smoother graph (less knock) i'd make the switch for the motor. If that nets me 1 WHP, i couldnt care less

my car only does 150 WHP anyway that 1 WHP will be like VTEC


I used to work at a petro when I was younger for about 2 years. Never added any additive after the truck delivered gas.

However while on the subject the driver was always the same guy and came around every 2 days so I got to know him after one day I opened I seen the person the night before left the plug off the tank when measuring the gas levels

Next day I seen water draining in it so I did a water test, wasn't much water it in so my manager said not to worry I thought it was odd to not care so I asked the driver and he said 9 out of 10 stations in ns have water in there tank so if they get low on gas which the one I worked at ran out a lot. Then u pump some water into ur tank lol
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 06:53 PM
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When we had the big stir over the regular sold as supreme coming from irving in saint john, they had a thread like this on maritimesportcompact. They said basically the same thing about all maritimes fuel coming from imperial oil(no ethanol), and irving for the gas with ethanol. But somebody(unconfirmed?) said that shell gas was the only one that may actually come to canada shipped in already refined and be deifferent fuel than the other 2.
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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by MidnightNB
When we had the big stir over the regular sold as supreme coming from irving in saint john, they had a thread like this on maritimesportcompact. They said basically the same thing about all maritimes fuel coming from imperial oil(no ethanol), and irving for the gas with ethanol. But somebody(unconfirmed?) said that shell gas was the only one that may actually come to canada shipped in already refined and be deifferent fuel than the other 2.
Not true. I work for irving. Its only irving or Imperial around here. the same thing applies with furnace oil and diesel.
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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 02:44 PM
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so the other companies pay to have irving or imperial supply their stations with gas?
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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 08:29 AM
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Correct. Its a standing agreement. the same thing apply in the states where is easier/cheaper for Irving and Imperial to use someone else's fuel done there. its cheaper to uses another companies product than to have your own shipped to you when you are far from the refinery.
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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 09:43 AM
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Demystifying High End Fuels. [Updated]

neat article on Shell V-Power gas. too bad that valve cleany goodness doesn't help us LNFs still looks impressive to say the least.
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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 11:09 AM
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I use Shell gas
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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ceeker
yes, we have known all gas comes fro mthe imperial oil refinary, or is shipped from irving refinary in new brunswick.

we know that the same imperial oil trucks deliver to all the stations in the maritimes

we know that each station then adds their branded form of additives to their gas @ station. When the trucks from the the imperial oil deliver.

@ daddy, im expcecting basically no appreciable difference in power, i'd be happy with a +/- 1 WHP TBH, it mostly just to find out if there is ANY difference.

waste of time and money in the long run?.... probably! but in the name of crazy Ceeker science i'm gonna find out!

main test i want to see, is difference in shell V-Power Additives, vs Esso 91 Additives (if esso 91 even has additives) shell 91 is basically esso 91 + the v-power shell additives. I would just like to see if that makes any differences.

you are right, i probably wont notice any discernable preformance difference in terms of HP/TQ; i'm expecting such. but if i notice one gas has a smoother graph (less knock) i'd make the switch for the motor. If that nets me 1 WHP, i couldnt care less

my car only does 150 WHP anyway that 1 WHP will be like VTEC
Bingo. I work in the wholesale petroleum business and most fuel comes from the same refiners, it's just the additives that make a difference. I would look up top tier retailers on your area.

FYI Costco has refiner support, which allows them to keep their prices low. They buy on their own wholesale accounts directly from the refiner, and purchase about 20% on spot when the market is low. As you said they buy mostly shell, the rest they buy from whomever is cheapest, and do not add any special additives because they are not a "branded" retailer. This is why I do not buy from Costco.

I buy only Chevron down here, but CA gasoline is 10-15% ethanol, and is pretty much flammable horse urine.
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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 09:13 PM
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I get better fuel mileage off of shell. I put Irving in the car once, and it turned into a big block V8. I don't notice any performance gains or losses with any fuel...as of yet, being stock and all.
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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 09:25 PM
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We can't get Sunoco 94 anymore, just 93. Hess used to sell 94 too but now it's just 93.
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Old Jul 30, 2013 | 03:08 PM
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When we were tuning the evo for the fp red turbo I was running 94 from Huskey's. Had to take a break for a few weeks due to the stock clutch taking a crap. In that time frame I didn't go wot and also switched to petro 94. Once I got the new clutch, resumed wot tuning and holy ****, seen up to 7 counts of knock (also not knowing my tuner turned the knock sensitivity down so I was probably in the high teens). Ran the tank nearly dry, put huskeys back in and it ran fine. Petro gas is junk..lol.
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Old Jul 30, 2013 | 03:29 PM
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please tell me you're joking. those fumes would add up to about 1ml in your 49 liter tank lol also the gas is stored in underground tanks that would not be affected by heat, not even for the short period they would see it at the nozzle level. lol
I had heard this rumor before.

I think the vapor issue is when coming out of the hose. I don't believe it, but I don't really believe in Heaven either till someone proves me wrong.
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Old Jul 30, 2013 | 03:57 PM
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been reading this thread and using the advice, my last 2 tanks were 91 shell.

the shells here have up to 10% ethanol.

my question is:

I have 1 or 2 gas stations here that sell no ethanol gas, but they are no name stations. not sure what fuel they buy.

is it better to use shell 91 with ethanol, or find out who makes the no ethanol gas and buy that?

Dave
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Old Jul 30, 2013 | 05:01 PM
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ethanol isn't going to harm modern day cars. Its iffy on older cars with carbs. And now a days, all stations use 10% ethanol.
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Old Jul 30, 2013 | 05:19 PM
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ethanol isn't going to harm modern day cars. Its iffy on older cars with carbs. And now a days, all stations use 10% ethanol.
Tell that to the direct injection cobalts that have the wrong injector seals.

And in many states premium has no ethanol. One of about 2 reasons to love Missouri.
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Old Jul 30, 2013 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
Tell that to the direct injection cobalts that have the wrong injector seals.

And in many states premium has no ethanol. One of about 2 reasons to love Missouri.
I been running 94 and 91 octane with 10% ethanol for the past 4-5 years in all my vehicals. Never once noticed a difference, good or bad. Nor have I witnessed anyone I know having issues do to it. Anything from a Cobalt making stock power to a GTR running 94 octane and making 600+hp. Gotta love when people jump on that band wagon when they got no proof ethanol harmed their motor.
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