Note regarding Petro gas
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From: West Chicago, IL
me personally i try to keep it filled with shell and bp 93 octane only but besides the more attractive signs i have no way of knowing who really has the better gas out of the bunch lol
I don't know which is better out of Esso 91 and Shell 91.
im @ about half tank now, think when i get down low, i'll fill a gas jug up from esso 91, and another from shell 91 . and strap it down @ ravens.
Thinking, 3 runs on Gas A,
let car cool down, drain gas. Refill with gas B
let warm up to idle temps
3 runs Gas B
think good variables to watch would be
knock
Peak Power
any other suggestions???
once i have the time i would love to know the definitive best gas around HRM.
Thinking, 3 runs on Gas A,
let car cool down, drain gas. Refill with gas B
let warm up to idle temps
3 runs Gas B
think good variables to watch would be
knock
Peak Power
any other suggestions???
once i have the time i would love to know the definitive best gas around HRM.
All the gas comes from the esso refinery in woodside, wether it be shell, irving, petro.
Myself have never found too much of a difference between any of them, aside from shell and ultramar gas which I seem to get better mileage on, plus ultramar has the value max card which is nice, but performance wise I never seen or noticed a difference, maybe someone with hptuners can run some different brands of gas and data log or something and maybe see what differences there is on day to day driving?
Myself have never found too much of a difference between any of them, aside from shell and ultramar gas which I seem to get better mileage on, plus ultramar has the value max card which is nice, but performance wise I never seen or noticed a difference, maybe someone with hptuners can run some different brands of gas and data log or something and maybe see what differences there is on day to day driving?
yes, we have known all gas comes fro mthe imperial oil refinary, or is shipped from irving refinary in new brunswick.
we know that the same imperial oil trucks deliver to all the stations in the maritimes
we know that each station then adds their branded form of additives to their gas @ station. When the trucks from the the imperial oil deliver.
@ daddy, im expcecting basically no appreciable difference in power, i'd be happy with a +/- 1 WHP TBH, it mostly just to find out if there is ANY difference.
waste of time and money in the long run?.... probably! but in the name of crazy Ceeker science
i'm gonna find out!
main test i want to see, is difference in shell V-Power Additives, vs Esso 91 Additives (if esso 91 even has additives) shell 91 is basically esso 91 + the v-power shell additives. I would just like to see if that makes any differences.
you are right, i probably wont notice any discernable preformance difference in terms of HP/TQ; i'm expecting such. but if i notice one gas has a smoother graph (less knock) i'd make the switch for the motor. If that nets me 1 WHP, i couldnt care less
my car only does 150 WHP anyway
that 1 WHP will be like VTEC
we know that the same imperial oil trucks deliver to all the stations in the maritimes
we know that each station then adds their branded form of additives to their gas @ station. When the trucks from the the imperial oil deliver.
@ daddy, im expcecting basically no appreciable difference in power, i'd be happy with a +/- 1 WHP TBH, it mostly just to find out if there is ANY difference.
waste of time and money in the long run?.... probably! but in the name of crazy Ceeker science
main test i want to see, is difference in shell V-Power Additives, vs Esso 91 Additives (if esso 91 even has additives) shell 91 is basically esso 91 + the v-power shell additives. I would just like to see if that makes any differences.
you are right, i probably wont notice any discernable preformance difference in terms of HP/TQ; i'm expecting such. but if i notice one gas has a smoother graph (less knock) i'd make the switch for the motor. If that nets me 1 WHP, i couldnt care less
my car only does 150 WHP anyway
yes, we have known all gas comes fro mthe imperial oil refinary, or is shipped from irving refinary in new brunswick.
we know that the same imperial oil trucks deliver to all the stations in the maritimes
we know that each station then adds their branded form of additives to their gas @ station. When the trucks from the the imperial oil deliver.
@ daddy, im expcecting basically no appreciable difference in power, i'd be happy with a +/- 1 WHP TBH, it mostly just to find out if there is ANY difference.
waste of time and money in the long run?.... probably! but in the name of crazy Ceeker science
i'm gonna find out!
main test i want to see, is difference in shell V-Power Additives, vs Esso 91 Additives (if esso 91 even has additives) shell 91 is basically esso 91 + the v-power shell additives. I would just like to see if that makes any differences.
you are right, i probably wont notice any discernable preformance difference in terms of HP/TQ; i'm expecting such. but if i notice one gas has a smoother graph (less knock) i'd make the switch for the motor. If that nets me 1 WHP, i couldnt care less
my car only does 150 WHP anyway
that 1 WHP will be like VTEC
we know that the same imperial oil trucks deliver to all the stations in the maritimes
we know that each station then adds their branded form of additives to their gas @ station. When the trucks from the the imperial oil deliver.
@ daddy, im expcecting basically no appreciable difference in power, i'd be happy with a +/- 1 WHP TBH, it mostly just to find out if there is ANY difference.
waste of time and money in the long run?.... probably! but in the name of crazy Ceeker science
main test i want to see, is difference in shell V-Power Additives, vs Esso 91 Additives (if esso 91 even has additives) shell 91 is basically esso 91 + the v-power shell additives. I would just like to see if that makes any differences.
you are right, i probably wont notice any discernable preformance difference in terms of HP/TQ; i'm expecting such. but if i notice one gas has a smoother graph (less knock) i'd make the switch for the motor. If that nets me 1 WHP, i couldnt care less
my car only does 150 WHP anyway
I used to work at a petro when I was younger for about 2 years. Never added any additive after the truck delivered gas.
However while on the subject the driver was always the same guy and came around every 2 days so I got to know him after one day I opened I seen the person the night before left the plug off the tank when measuring the gas levels
Next day I seen water draining in it so I did a water test, wasn't much water it in so my manager said not to worry I thought it was odd to not care so I asked the driver and he said 9 out of 10 stations in ns have water in there tank so if they get low on gas which the one I worked at ran out a lot. Then u pump some water into ur tank lol
When we had the big stir over the regular sold as supreme coming from irving in saint john, they had a thread like this on maritimesportcompact. They said basically the same thing about all maritimes fuel coming from imperial oil(no ethanol), and irving for the gas with ethanol. But somebody(unconfirmed?) said that shell gas was the only one that may actually come to canada shipped in already refined and be deifferent fuel than the other 2.
When we had the big stir over the regular sold as supreme coming from irving in saint john, they had a thread like this on maritimesportcompact. They said basically the same thing about all maritimes fuel coming from imperial oil(no ethanol), and irving for the gas with ethanol. But somebody(unconfirmed?) said that shell gas was the only one that may actually come to canada shipped in already refined and be deifferent fuel than the other 2.
Correct. Its a standing agreement. the same thing apply in the states where is easier/cheaper for Irving and Imperial to use someone else's fuel done there. its cheaper to uses another companies product than to have your own shipped to you when you are far from the refinery.
Demystifying High End Fuels. [Updated]
neat article on Shell V-Power gas. too bad that valve cleany goodness doesn't help us LNFs still looks impressive to say the least.
neat article on Shell V-Power gas. too bad that valve cleany goodness doesn't help us LNFs still looks impressive to say the least.
yes, we have known all gas comes fro mthe imperial oil refinary, or is shipped from irving refinary in new brunswick.
we know that the same imperial oil trucks deliver to all the stations in the maritimes
we know that each station then adds their branded form of additives to their gas @ station. When the trucks from the the imperial oil deliver.
@ daddy, im expcecting basically no appreciable difference in power, i'd be happy with a +/- 1 WHP TBH, it mostly just to find out if there is ANY difference.
waste of time and money in the long run?.... probably! but in the name of crazy Ceeker science
i'm gonna find out!
main test i want to see, is difference in shell V-Power Additives, vs Esso 91 Additives (if esso 91 even has additives) shell 91 is basically esso 91 + the v-power shell additives. I would just like to see if that makes any differences.
you are right, i probably wont notice any discernable preformance difference in terms of HP/TQ; i'm expecting such. but if i notice one gas has a smoother graph (less knock) i'd make the switch for the motor. If that nets me 1 WHP, i couldnt care less
my car only does 150 WHP anyway
that 1 WHP will be like VTEC
we know that the same imperial oil trucks deliver to all the stations in the maritimes
we know that each station then adds their branded form of additives to their gas @ station. When the trucks from the the imperial oil deliver.
@ daddy, im expcecting basically no appreciable difference in power, i'd be happy with a +/- 1 WHP TBH, it mostly just to find out if there is ANY difference.
waste of time and money in the long run?.... probably! but in the name of crazy Ceeker science
main test i want to see, is difference in shell V-Power Additives, vs Esso 91 Additives (if esso 91 even has additives) shell 91 is basically esso 91 + the v-power shell additives. I would just like to see if that makes any differences.
you are right, i probably wont notice any discernable preformance difference in terms of HP/TQ; i'm expecting such. but if i notice one gas has a smoother graph (less knock) i'd make the switch for the motor. If that nets me 1 WHP, i couldnt care less
my car only does 150 WHP anyway
FYI Costco has refiner support, which allows them to keep their prices low. They buy on their own wholesale accounts directly from the refiner, and purchase about 20% on spot when the market is low. As you said they buy mostly shell, the rest they buy from whomever is cheapest, and do not add any special additives because they are not a "branded" retailer. This is why I do not buy from Costco.
I buy only Chevron down here, but CA gasoline is 10-15% ethanol, and is pretty much flammable horse urine.
I get better fuel mileage off of shell. I put Irving in the car once, and it turned into a big block V8. I don't notice any performance gains or losses with any fuel...as of yet, being stock and all.
When we were tuning the evo for the fp red turbo I was running 94 from Huskey's. Had to take a break for a few weeks due to the stock clutch taking a crap. In that time frame I didn't go wot and also switched to petro 94. Once I got the new clutch, resumed wot tuning and holy ****, seen up to 7 counts of knock (also not knowing my tuner turned the knock sensitivity down so I was probably in the high teens). Ran the tank nearly dry, put huskeys back in and it ran fine. Petro gas is junk..lol.
I think the vapor issue is when coming out of the hose. I don't believe it, but I don't really believe in Heaven either till someone proves me wrong.
been reading this thread and using the advice, my last 2 tanks were 91 shell.
the shells here have up to 10% ethanol.
my question is:
I have 1 or 2 gas stations here that sell no ethanol gas, but they are no name stations. not sure what fuel they buy.
is it better to use shell 91 with ethanol, or find out who makes the no ethanol gas and buy that?
Dave
the shells here have up to 10% ethanol.
my question is:
I have 1 or 2 gas stations here that sell no ethanol gas, but they are no name stations. not sure what fuel they buy.
is it better to use shell 91 with ethanol, or find out who makes the no ethanol gas and buy that?
Dave
And in many states premium has no ethanol. One of about 2 reasons to love Missouri.
I been running 94 and 91 octane with 10% ethanol for the past 4-5 years in all my vehicals. Never once noticed a difference, good or bad. Nor have I witnessed anyone I know having issues do to it. Anything from a Cobalt making stock power to a GTR running 94 octane and making 600+hp. Gotta love when people jump on that band wagon when they got no proof ethanol harmed their motor.



