SuperForceViper

Hello cobaltarians,

I cannot beleive my ears that unlimited has gone from a cobalt to a dodge ram. You should have bought a chevy product like my loaded Avalanche. I have spent a week looking at GT500's and a camaro and a CTSV and they all cost to much! I have decided to build the cobalt and squeeze as much Hp out of it as I can.

So I want to do this right and asking anyone with expertise in this area to throw in and tell me what they would do.

xcross

buy something else:

07cobalt2.2

build the **** out of the avalanche

ecot3c inside

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lsj's IMO have a bigger horizon, as the DI's have the easiest mods the lsj will win in the long run...
you will spend more on an lsj, but less on the DI's, but to a certain extent.

Audacity

Is this Engrish?? LOL!!

PenguinPIE

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i think he meant the LNF is easier to mod?


anyways,

you should get some smaller pulley soon if you haven't yet. I really want to open this car up a bit too. They may not have as much potential as LNFs but I think they can be quite decent

USMCFieldMP

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BlackCobalt707

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^^^^b i n g o, b i n g o, b i n g o, and bingo was his name-o

SuperForceViper

I appreciate comments so far. My car has 73000k so should I pull the engine and build the block to capacity first. Should I beef the suspension and clutch. I would like to acheive at least 400hp or more if possible....oh ya.....superchargers or turbos

coopercharge

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about 375ish on a tvs with e85 if you want 400ish you would need to go turbo.

as long as the engine has no problems you shouldn't have any problems but if you want high horsepower a clutch is almost a necessity and I would go with the exedy hypersingle personally.

Audacity

If your wanting to pump out alot more HP I would go with a turbo over the supercharger. I would suggest a billet connecting rod set, mayby a Haun direct intake manifold, Haun intercooler, bigger turbocharger kit, K&N cai, and you would want to upgrade the clutch because over 320hp you could notice slipping at full boost due to the rapid torque curve especially when upgrading to a larger turbo and a good tune. I can't remember who does it but there is a build up kit out there that you can buy with all the components for whatever hp range your looking for. I thought it was ZZP but their site is down right now.

_UnLiMiTeD_

lol unfortunately my overal experience with a chevy product wasn't that good and my last chrysler vehicle i owned was great to me so i went back to something that treated me well.


glad to hear your keeping your balt and going to push it to its limits.

USMCFieldMP

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My car has 93,000... stock block. Runs 22psi every day from a 55mm Turbo. As long as you and/or your tuner isn't retarded... the motor will last.

fullmetaljacket

first step would to be upgrade your handling and braking. No point in having a 400hp car with a 200hp handling and braking system. Everyone wants to go so fast they forget that soon enough, the car is going to need to slow down.

In my opinion i would start with that, then work on you hp gains. Turbos are so much more efficient than superchargers, i know people will debate that, but instead of losing power to the pulley you have to wait for the turbo to spool up. If your running an efficient turbo set up you wouldn't even notice. If you want real hp look at zzp's stage 3 turbo kits or if you want, the twin charged kit. People have seen pretty stunning results with those. They see 1/4 runs in the 11's.

USMCFieldMP

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The Cobalt SS is more than capable of handling and braking 400hp. With the exception of throwing some Powell Trans Mounts on the car... you really don't NEED to do much in either of those departments.

67C10

If you're seriously looking to push 400hp, and you're considering pulling the motor, I would pull it and build the engine strong enough to handle those numbers. A ported head would be sweet. If you can't decide between a supercharger or a turbo, then twin charge it. Ha.

But the turbo is definitely the right choice. But I'd definitely build the motor around it.

USMCFieldMP

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You don't need to build an LSJ for 400whp. Multitudes of LSJ's have supported 400whp for long periods of time on 100% stock blocks.

WickedSS2005

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Rob is right. People on css.net are a bunch of retarded sheep following the newest thing and a bunch of paranoia!

67C10

Doubling stock horsepower on a stock block that can handle it is pretty impressive. But with just a turbo? What else was done? If it can be done, I'm interested. Snapping axles would be my first concern.

...who obv enjoy trolling through regional forums on a sunday morning.

INFE

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Mines bigger

USMCFieldMP

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I've been running a turbo set-up for 30,000 miles now. 100% stock Long Block, with the exception of the -10an bung on the Oil Pan. 93,000 miles on the Odometer too. Motor has had the hell beat out of it every step of the way. These motors are very strong... its all in the tune though. You get stupid with your tune... your block's gonna get stupid with you.

I've never snapped an axle either. Ran stock axles for the first 82k miles, before I swapped in OTTP Stg1's. And I only did that because I thought my stock axles were clicking... but they weren't... it was my CAB's.

Ran the stock clutch for 88k miles and it held fine every step of the way. Only swapped it out for a Spec Stg 2+ because my TOB died.

Only by 3mm's.

SuperForceViper

Thanks so much for all the great input. I will be going with the turbo only to begin and if I have problems will address them then. My motor is very strong at only 75000 k

Now which turbo kit and where to get it tuned?